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Re: How does that differ from "might equals right"?


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Posted by P on October 24, 2001 at 17:51:43:

In Reply to: Re: How does that differ from "might equals right"? posted by Rush on October 24, 2001 at 14:11:35:

: : The correct interpretation of the above post should be with power must come responsibility and compassion for the less powerful, relative to that person, organization, nation, etc.

: Ah, to be a good samaritan. By virtue of the fact that I'm not a psychopath, I don't need to tell you I agree with what you said.

: Yet, I'm addressing a more sinister issue, endemic to the darker outskirts of society (and of the human mind). A psychopath (you may substitute "empathically challenged person" or some other mild yet appropriate term if "psychopath" is too coarse for you) will not acknowledge your right to life, property. liberty, or whatever the focus of his sadistic depravity, or whatever simply doesn't happen to matter to him in comparison with his self-interest. We mustn't delude ourselves: To the psychopath, such rights on your part literally DO NOT EXIST.

: Thus, a more practical interpretation of my post (in other words, one that would apply to reality) is that as long as psychopaths exist (and as far as I can tell, no sweep of God's hand has rectified this reality yet), an assertion of rights must accompany the capability to defend those rights forcibly. If you cannot defend them, you'd better have someone on your side (i.e., your allies and/or your government) who can. If you have no means of defense, and you are at the mercy of a psychopath, your "rights" are an existential phantom in your mind, and perhaps in the minds of people who cannot help you, and whose beliefs in your "rights" are therefore as impotent IN EFFECT as yours are.

: As idealistically real as the cat's right to life was, "an existential phantom" was exactly what this right amounted to in its immediate situation. If nobody had found out, it would have ended there. That's just the way it is. You may adopt a belief in "divine retribution" if that will help you sleep better at night. Incidentally, it didn't end there, and with Isaac's eviction, the cat's right to life began to manifest itself in reality. We have yet to see whether it will manifest itself further.

: Rush

*****What you are saying in an asbstract way is human rights are commonly agreed upon by normal, sane people. These rights of others do not exist in the mind of the psycopath or near-psychopath.
Therefore for a normal person in order to not be taken advantage of by the psycopath must be capable of defending themselves, asserting their rights, and if necessary getting the assistance of like minded
people.

Make no mistake about it though, the disturbed individual will deny the rights of others, yet insist on full rights for themselves. Take Isaac for example. He murders the womans cat then cries when he is evicted and
the story is posted on this site. No conscious, no sense of responsibility, only focused on himself.

The scariest type of psycopath is the charmer or the pious. The charmer (3, 7, even 8) decieves people by charming the person thus making them drop their guard.
The pious (1,2) decieve people into thinking they have benevolent motives and making the person feel guilty and therefore dropping their guard.



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