Posted by isaac on October 31, 2001 at 12:23:45:
In Reply to: Sensate 5 posted by kalolu on October 29, 2001 at 22:15:12:
: I am reading all of these posts and I see that many 5's are IN--. I am a 5w4 with some 6 tendencies. I am also an ISTJ. ( I have taken the MBTI twice and Kiersey Indicator several times and always get this result ) I have read the type 5 description and it fits me to a tee. I want to know, are there any other sensate 5's out there, or am i the only fish in the ocean??
whenever i take a myersbriggs test, i get a different result. and, reading the descriptions, they all really seem to fit me about equally. that's the main reason why i have such a low opinion of the myers-briggs. there are fundamental flaws in jung's premises, which no one seems to notice, and they account for a lot of the contradictions that you find in the typing system. the most basic of these is the exclusiveness that he claims to exist between i/e, n/s, t/f, and j/p functions. this is patched up with a lot of handwaving on the part of his followers, talking about the role of the secondary functions, and so on. i usually am n and s at the same time, especially when i'm playing my guitar, but also all the rest of the time, too. i see lightening, and i'm struck (at once!) by the shape and the color and the physics behind it. i dont' see how one can be iNtuitive without Sensing; it just does'nt work like that for me. and, if it's possible (as it CLEARLY is) to be percieving one moment and judging the next, then would'nt that imply that these types are changeable and thus not good descriptors of the consistent patterns of personality that you'd want to describe with types?
it gets worse with the X crap. ixtp, ixtx, ixxx, xnfx, ad nauseum. then there's 81 types instead of 16, and they get even less descriptive. if jung were still around, i think there's a good chance he would have abandoned that theory by now. throw away the myers-briggs. the enneagram is a lot better.
: maybe i'm just schizo. I don't know.
hahaa, it's possible :)
but there aren't really any hard and fast rules about the mbti that don't fall apart when you try to apply them to real life. any egram type can be any mb type, tho some are more likely than others. it's a description of behavior, not of motivation, and that's really where the problem starts.
isaac