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This 'selfishness rules' thing is getting a little silly

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Posted by Diarmuid on November 01, 2001 at 09:10:34:

In Reply to: it seems like youre struggling to say... posted by isaac on October 31, 2001 at 11:36:40:

Two words to completely blow that theory out of the water: medical professions.

Most hospitals in the western world cannot function without doctors working 70-hour weeks. These doctors earn chump change compared to the salaries they would get had they spent their college years doing software. Same with nurses, if they had become paralegals, they would work half the hours for better money. They all knew this before they chose these careers. And they chose them enthusiastically.

The world simply relies on this simple, everyday altruism. It can NOT be squared with selfishness. I don't doubt you have some dazzling display of sophistry which purports to reconcile this dissonance, but it will be like those mathematical 'proofs' that 2 plus 2 equals 5.

: ...that they just woulnd't get it.

: replace the 3 s's with the three c's: competence, creation, and communication.

: oh, and jp, you seem to say "selfish" like it's a bad thing. why is that?

: isaac

: : I think that for a lot of withdrawn types (myself included) the way I quantify the sharing of information is like I am "willing", and yet perhaps I feel my ideas are fluffy and not of interest to another, or that they wouldn't understand/be interested, or that I don't know them well enough. Like I feel more that sharing info about myself just won't be appreciated and/or accepted. Or if I'm feeling "superior" then I think it would be a waste of my time because they wouldn't be "into" what I had to share. Something like that.

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since when is defending virtue silly? isaac 11:11:04 11/01/01 (5)
- Re: since when is defending virtue silly? Diarmuid 11:38:13 11/01/01 (4)
  - Re: since when is defending virtue silly? isaac 10:45:29 11/02/01 (0)
  - Re: since when is defending virtue silly? Mikko 19:07:05 11/01/01 (2)
    - yet another stupid non-sequiter from the booger man isaac 10:49:28 11/02/01 (1)
      - Isaac, you see...nevermind. [nt] Mikko 17:42:03 11/02/01 (0)

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: Two words to completely blow that theory out of the water: medical professions. : Most hospitals in the western world cannot function without doctors working 70-hour weeks. These doctors earn chump change compared to the salaries they would get had they spent their college years doing software. Same with nurses, if they had become paralegals, they would work half the hours for better money. They all knew this before they chose these careers. And they chose them enthusiastically. : The world simply relies on this simple, everyday altruism. It can NOT be squared with selfishness. I don't doubt you have some dazzling display of sophistry which purports to reconcile this dissonance, but it will be like those mathematical 'proofs' that 2 plus 2 equals 5. : : ...that they just woulnd't get it. : : replace the 3 s's with the three c's: competence, creation, and communication. : : oh, and jp, you seem to say "selfish" like it's a bad thing. why is that? : : isaac : : : : I think that for a lot of withdrawn types (myself included) the way I quantify the sharing of information is like I am "willing", and yet perhaps I feel my ideas are fluffy and not of interest to another, or that they wouldn't understand/be interested, or that I don't know them well enough. Like I feel more that sharing info about myself just won't be appreciated and/or accepted. Or if I'm feeling "superior" then I think it would be a waste of my time because they wouldn't be "into" what I had to share. Something like that.

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