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Posted by JP on November 02, 2001 at 18:07:52:

In Reply to: Re: What? posted by isaac on November 02, 2001 at 13:51:26:

I said earlier, after the cat thing, that I wasn't going to read or respond to your posts (or Diarmuid). However, I broke down and read this one; I found that if I kept that commitment it made it sort of hard to read threads below yours. Really I guess I just couldn't maintain my moral repugnance very well; I would have to know you personally to feel that. Which I suppose was your point all along - that those of us who didn't know you, and who weren't in your shoes, didn't have enough information to judge you one way or another.

I see your point. And it is obvious that you are intelligent.

I'm not sure I can extend the same qualification toward the other person in question.

Myself and the 7's I've known are basically amoral. 6's are weirdly moral, even though instinctively intuit the limitations of any absolute morality, as with 5's and 7's. Maybe other types do this as well? Anyway, I don't really want to talk about the cat thing; I don't think about it any more.

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: jp, i go thru somewhat similar patterns. very cyclical. but i notice that i go through cycles of blandness/excitement in my "external" life; fall into a daily routine, then smash it to shreds. personally, i dont' think it's obsessive-compulsive at all.

[Me neither. I was just being polite and accommodating Hughes' attempt at an inflammatory analysis. Actually, there is some merit to the OCD view I think, and one I certainly wouldn't have noticed of my own accord any time soon. I have noticed that I seem very "one-like" to myself sometimes; or, more accurately, what I'm sure I mistakenly imagine what I would feel were I a one.]

:i play games that no one else is a part of, at least not as active participants. not stepping on cracks, driving home without making any left turns, that kinda thing. (that one, i've found, is damn near impossible without going halfway across town.) entertainment is so important. as far as eating and exercizing and that kinda stuff, i tend to get on kicks with one thing or another, then lose momentum and find something new to be excited about. it's fun.

[I do exactly the same thing, except examples of my games are juggling, sort-of martial arts things, climbing. I think though that being mid-30's myself, that focus on what I view in myself as hedonism (or self-indulgence) has only gotten me so far. Avoiding short-term pain for long-term gain has always been a central choice I've failed to successfully make with any consistency. So what I mean is, it has not been completely useful for me to allow that loss of momentum you describe to dominate my choices in life.]

: that is rather curious, i agree. there's some nasty people on these boards. not nasty like oscar the grouch. nasty like that green shit that gets stuck to your shoe in the subway.

[I don't worry about that; I just wipe it off. People are only nasty if we let them control our reactions. As we learn to control our reactions we become more capable of creating the actions we desire in our overall reality (i.e., ourselves, other people, etc.). Yeah - whatever! I had an editor tell me once that I sounded too preachy, and I think she was right. That is a load of bullshit - I only control my emotions well as other people perceive them; the way *I* perceive them I would say I don't control them well at all! But I guess the *ideal* I have is that "don't let people get to me" thing. I do think I'm better at it than I once was. Personally, I think physiological relaxation is one of the keys.]

: I know: read Ayn Rand!

[Anyone have recommendations as to her best book? Is there a consensus that "Atlas Shrugged" is the best place to start? I think my 6 friend read it and told me she was a 5.]



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