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Posted by LD on October 21, 2000 at 10:03:39:

In Reply to: Re: NLP in dreams posted by Sambersil on October 20, 2000 at 18:57:46:

No, you did not say that about nightmares, I did. But I also think that's not it anymore.
I no longer think that nightmares have to be about conflict or fear at all anymore.

I now see see what a nightmare really is after all. The worst kind of all, are about feeling the worst kind of emotion there is. And that greatest singular worst feeling of all is moral decay.

This means that all my war nightmares are not really nightmares. Conflict is not really nightmare. Fear is not. What was a nightmare for me was last night.

I dreamt a man hammered nails in a woman's head while she was standing right next to him talking and she didn't even realize what he was doing, but I could see the blood pouring down her face, she was loosing blood and dying from it, but he still kept doing it to her, and she still kept looking at him as if he was so innocent and he had nothing but only the best of intentions at heart, and he was talking to her as if he too had her best intentions at heart, but he was killing her that whole time, and I **saw** what he was doing to her that whole time, yet I could not point it out to her and make her aware of his evil deeds and nature, and there was nothing I could do but just sit there hopeless, and wish if only she would just wake up and see what was really happening, and how could he just keep on just doing that to her, someone so innocent and never did a thing to him, yet he didnt even see her as a person, her just kept pounding nails into her head anyway, and she was so blind to his deeds, and it was this horror, this moral decay, that I could not handle, and being able to do nothing about it but just sit and watch, I could not stop his evil ways, and even if I stopped his acts of the moment, I could never be able to get inside his skull, heart, and soul and change how corrupt, morally bankrupt, deprived and decayed he was at heart. *THAT* is what I call a *real* night mare. Because *THAT* is trully the worst thing in the whole entire world. A morally corrupt soul, a morally decayed human being. The greatest nightmare of all, in real life, and dreams.

: What is NLP? Is that something like the relative importance of our senses? It has an L in it, something about how we learn best? If it's about learning, it's hard to say for me. The more enthusiastic I get in general, the better my learning capacity is, whether I am enthusiastic about what I am learning or about something else; thus, I learn best in situations where I can verbally participate. In school, it's a lot easier for me to be alert in class and learn most of the material during lectures rather than study afterwards, but only in classes where I am comfortable and can actively participate. So, maybe kinesthetic first because of the need to DO something while learning. Come to think of it, I can memorize long lists of things REALLY fast if I write them down a few times; kinesthetic is first. Then, I guess that visual and auditory follow, about tied.

: When I dream strong, it is rare, and I enjoy most strong dreams very much. I have other ways of dreaming that are just as satisfying - there is one where I wake up and feel great, and as if I have been asleep for a LONG time, and I have only vague memories of my dreams, which are tinted brick red for some reason - but strong dreams are delicious when I am actually in them, and the memory is nice.

: As a matter of fact, the thing about sound in dreams - I don't really have very much sound in my dreams. Most of it is just words. I guess that's because much of the time I don't pay a whole lot of attention to sounds, whereas sights and sensations and emotions are important to me.

: I dunno where you got the impression that I said that nightmares are a response to a situation involving conflict. I wouldn't say that's wrong, I just don't think I said it. My nightmares (I only have a few to draw on, only 3 I can think of immediately including the 2 strong ones - most of my dreams deal with what I am learning, ex. when I was playing a lot of chess on the MSN Gaming Zone, my dreams were actually chess games, just as they appeared on the Zone) are usually induced by physical discomfort, but I have heard other people say that conflict causes their nightmares. Maybe it's because of my detachment from the world as a 5w4 that conflicts in the world cause me stress but almost never fear, and thus never can generate nightmares.

: My other strong nightmare will be posted near this response.

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: No, you did not say that about nightmares, I did. But I also think that's not it anymore. : I no longer think that nightmares have to be about conflict or fear at all anymore. : I now see see what a nightmare really is after all. The worst kind of all, are about feeling the worst kind of emotion there is. And that greatest singular worst feeling of all is moral decay. : This means that all my war nightmares are not really nightmares. Conflict is not really nightmare. Fear is not. What was a nightmare for me was last night. : I dreamt a man hammered nails in a woman's head while she was standing right next to him talking and she didn't even realize what he was doing, but I could see the blood pouring down her face, she was loosing blood and dying from it, but he still kept doing it to her, and she still kept looking at him as if he was so innocent and he had nothing but only the best of intentions at heart, and he was talking to her as if he too had her best intentions at heart, but he was killing her that whole time, and I **saw** what he was doing to her that whole time, yet I could not point it out to her and make her aware of his evil deeds and nature, and there was nothing I could do but just sit there hopeless, and wish if only she would just wake up and see what was really happening, and how could he just keep on just doing that to her, someone so innocent and never did a thing to him, yet he didnt even see her as a person, her just kept pounding nails into her head anyway, and she was so blind to his deeds, and it was this horror, this moral decay, that I could not handle, and being able to do nothing about it but just sit and watch, I could not stop his evil ways, and even if I stopped his acts of the moment, I could never be able to get inside his skull, heart, and soul and change how corrupt, morally bankrupt, deprived and decayed he was at heart. *THAT* is what I call a *real* night mare. Because *THAT* is trully the worst thing in the whole entire world. A morally corrupt soul, a morally decayed human being. The greatest nightmare of all, in real life, and dreams. : : What is NLP? Is that something like the relative importance of our senses? It has an L in it, something about how we learn best? If it's about learning, it's hard to say for me. The more enthusiastic I get in general, the better my learning capacity is, whether I am enthusiastic about what I am learning or about something else; thus, I learn best in situations where I can verbally participate. In school, it's a lot easier for me to be alert in class and learn most of the material during lectures rather than study afterwards, but only in classes where I am comfortable and can actively participate. So, maybe kinesthetic first because of the need to DO something while learning. Come to think of it, I can memorize long lists of things REALLY fast if I write them down a few times; kinesthetic is first. Then, I guess that visual and auditory follow, about tied. : : When I dream strong, it is rare, and I enjoy most strong dreams very much. I have other ways of dreaming that are just as satisfying - there is one where I wake up and feel great, and as if I have been asleep for a LONG time, and I have only vague memories of my dreams, which are tinted brick red for some reason - but strong dreams are delicious when I am actually in them, and the memory is nice. : : As a matter of fact, the thing about sound in dreams - I don't really have very much sound in my dreams. Most of it is just words. I guess that's because much of the time I don't pay a whole lot of attention to sounds, whereas sights and sensations and emotions are important to me. : : I dunno where you got the impression that I said that nightmares are a response to a situation involving conflict. I wouldn't say that's wrong, I just don't think I said it. My nightmares (I only have a few to draw on, only 3 I can think of immediately including the 2 strong ones - most of my dreams deal with what I am learning, ex. when I was playing a lot of chess on the MSN Gaming Zone, my dreams were actually chess games, just as they appeared on the Zone) are usually induced by physical discomfort, but I have heard other people say that conflict causes their nightmares. Maybe it's because of my detachment from the world as a 5w4 that conflicts in the world cause me stress but almost never fear, and thus never can generate nightmares. : : My other strong nightmare will be posted near this response.

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