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Enneagram Type 5 Board Archive Notice that...Posted by Bartholomew on December 08, 2001 at 09:45:59: In Reply to: Re: Bart replied posted by Mikko on December 07, 2001 at 17:31:02: : : : The vowel in "nurse" has traditionally been the same as in "door", making "nurse" sound like "norse". The variants of the nurse vowels from a continuum along the front-back axis, the variants identical or similar to the standard being most common and the most localized version being nearly extinct." : : That part looks like it could be explained by the standard chain shift idea. Why can't it? : --Because the changes and different variants don't affect other vowels. ... you never said that until now. You are very poor at explaining things, if that was the crucial point. Although the "uh" sound in "nurse" is pronounced near the back of the mouth, the complete "ur" sound is pronounced near the front of the mouth. The "oh" sound that you described them substutiting for the "uh" is also pronounced near the front of the mouth. Without the "r," the sound would have been shifted to the back of the mouth if the vowel had not been also changed. The sound did not move in the mouth.
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