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Posted by Tiggy on April 13, 2002 at 17:14:22:

In Reply to: Re: Randomness, fivishness, and intelligence posted by Bartholomew on April 13, 2002 at 08:35:28:

: : : It's not that simple.

[I never said it was]

: : How about this: if two children grow up together, and one is a five for a few years, could you say that the other child probably is/was for awhile too? Lets say here, that "probably" is anything over 70%.

[Just because children grow up together doesn't mean they have the same experiences - some people might think that there is more likelihood of similar type with twins, but twin often take on almost opposing or compensatory roles. I've seen this myself when I was a nanny to twins of seven. One was a Type Seven and one a Type 4. One got away with things while the other bore the brunt. One was more mature than the other. One was more rebellious while the other was more avoidant. And yes you can tellat that age what type someone is, often. I could tell my nephew Benjy was a Three at a younger age still.]

: They both were fives for a while. Every non-retarded child was a five for a significant portion of their life.

[How dyou make that out? Being non-retarded is not synonomous with being a Five. You can be intelligent without being a Five. You can be intellectual ithout being a Five.]

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Re: Randomness, fivishness, and intelligence Bartholomew 20:41:42 04/13/02 (7)
- You are calling curiosity a Fiveish motivation, but there is more than one reason for wanting to know things. nt Tiggy 16:49:08 04/14/02 (6)
  - True, but only one of those reasons is called "curiosity." Other reasons for knowing things go by different names. (nt) Bartholomew 18:46:18 04/14/02 (5)
    - You can't say someone is a Five just cos they have curiosity. What about the other Five traits? nt Tiggy 19:34:27 04/15/02 (4)
      - The 5 motivation is curiosity. Period. End of story. If someone is ruled by curiosity more than anything else, then by definition they are a 5. (nt) Bartholomew 21:27:00 04/15/02 (3)
        
        Or a cat... NM Primer Gray 15:50:28 04/18/02 (0)
        
        Babies aren't just motivated by curiosity. nt Tiggy 16:55:55 04/17/02 (1)
        
        True. What does that have to do with what we're talking about? (nt) Bartholomew 22:20:25 04/17/02 (0)

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: : : : It's not that simple. : [I never said it was] : : : How about this: if two children grow up together, and one is a five for a few years, could you say that the other child probably is/was for awhile too? Lets say here, that "probably" is anything over 70%. : [Just because children grow up together doesn't mean they have the same experiences - some people might think that there is more likelihood of similar type with twins, but twin often take on almost opposing or compensatory roles. I've seen this myself when I was a nanny to twins of seven. One was a Type Seven and one a Type 4. One got away with things while the other bore the brunt. One was more mature than the other. One was more rebellious while the other was more avoidant. And yes you can tellat that age what type someone is, often. I could tell my nephew Benjy was a Three at a younger age still.] : : They both were fives for a while. Every non-retarded child was a five for a significant portion of their life. : [How dyou make that out? Being non-retarded is not synonomous with being a Five. You can be intelligent without being a Five. You can be intellectual ithout being a Five.]

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