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Enneagram Type 5 Board Archive Clarity and the Crystal BallPosted by RoTtEn ApPlE on April 13, 2002 at 21:37:48: In Reply to: Randomness, fivishness, and intelligence posted by Bartholomew on April 12, 2002 at 00:53:08: I would choose the word 'unanticipated' (for which there can be no contigency plan). I'd say that 5s like to be able to make accurate predictions... and finding the pattern or rhythm of things is generally the key to predicting them. Confusing or unstable sensory input could very well be a contributing factor in 5ishness. The brain may have to learn to draw conclusions to fill in sensory gaps and construct a clear picture. : The five motivation is a dislike of randomness. Fives want nothing to be random; they want to see order everywhere. This is not the same as imposing order, like type 1; fives are bugged by even the knowledge of disorder, even if presently things are ordered. So fives are driven to figure everything out so that nothing is random. Fives wish to perceive things as ordered, and to do that, they need to see patterns. : In general, the more a child wants to figure things out, the smarter he gets. The more he dislikes randomness, the more he wants to figure things out. So the more fivishness a person had as a child, the smarter he is. : This begs the question, "What makes a child fivish?" : It seems reasonable to me that more randomness in the child's environment would activate the fivishness that he had within him, making him want to get rid of the randomness. This could be visual randomness, in the form of a highly fractal environment. It could also be randomness of experience, such as travel might produce. The activated fivishness would increase the child's intelligence. Then, of course, the fivishness might de-activate later in the child's life, if he decided that he had things figured out--many very smart people have little fivishness.
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