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Posted by Elizabeth on November 04, 2000 at 06:36:20:

In Reply to: Re: how do ya figure this? posted by matt on November 04, 2000 at 00:21:49:

>>>>>: No, actually, it is desirable to be high scoring on both the x & y axis (unless you consider ignorance a bliss).<<<<<

This book where you found this... what is the writer's objective?

>>>>>Also, the chart extends along only the positive x & y axis - ie. all categories are in the same quadrant - not one in each quadrant. (a large square subdivided into 4 small equally sized squares with point (0,0) at the bottom left corner of the big square)<<<<<<

Illustrates the same thing the numbers are irrelevant ofcourse... it is the visual representation (sort of like the enneagram) that holds significance.

>>>>>>: I think that the problem formulator has the ability to think more laterally and to see environment and context - to see woods from trees. At least that is my guess.<<<<<<

Woods and trees... good illustration... but here I think what it really illustrated is the way a person reasons. A problem formulator starts with the woods to understand the trees. (Taking something big and breaking it down)

A problem solver starts with trees to understand the woods. (Taking the parts and adding them up to equal a whole.)

>>>> : It's the terminology which I am trying to make sense of.

: Here is some more info - in the PROBLEM SOLVER "box" is:

: problem solver

: a scientific orientation

: defines alternatives - recommends solutions

: in the PROBLEM FORMULATOR "box" is:

: problem formulator

: an artistic orientation

: formulate the mess (mess is technical jargon for set of conditions which can be improved but first the problems must be identified)

: INNOVATOR "box":

: innovator/pathfinder

: a systematic orientation: purposeful behavior, sits the direction, identifies issues, context

: DOER "box":

: doers

: a practical orientation: implements solutions<<<<<

All of this fits my thinking except the ACTION related titles and descriptions (a picky semantics issue on my part more than anything-- I like things to be as CORRECT as possible. I think the author has selected these terms because he is trying to convince the reader of something. What is the writer's objective?)

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: : >>>>>: No, actually, it is desirable to be high scoring on both the x & y axis (unless you consider ignorance a bliss).<<<<< : This book where you found this... what is the writer's objective? : >>>>>Also, the chart extends along only the positive x & y axis - ie. all categories are in the same quadrant - not one in each quadrant. (a large square subdivided into 4 small equally sized squares with point (0,0) at the bottom left corner of the big square)<<<<<< : Illustrates the same thing the numbers are irrelevant ofcourse... it is the visual representation (sort of like the enneagram) that holds significance. : >>>>>>: I think that the problem formulator has the ability to think more laterally and to see environment and context - to see woods from trees. At least that is my guess.<<<<<< : Woods and trees... good illustration... but here I think what it really illustrated is the way a person reasons. A problem formulator starts with the woods to understand the trees. (Taking something big and breaking it down) : A problem solver starts with trees to understand the woods. (Taking the parts and adding them up to equal a whole.) : : >>>> : It's the terminology which I am trying to make sense of. : : Here is some more info - in the PROBLEM SOLVER "box" is: : : problem solver : : a scientific orientation : : defines alternatives - recommends solutions : : in the PROBLEM FORMULATOR "box" is: : : problem formulator : : an artistic orientation : : formulate the mess (mess is technical jargon for set of conditions which can be improved but first the problems must be identified) : : INNOVATOR "box": : : innovator/pathfinder : : a systematic orientation: purposeful behavior, sits the direction, identifies issues, context : : DOER "box": : : doers : : a practical orientation: implements solutions<<<<< : All of this fits my thinking except the ACTION related titles and descriptions (a picky semantics issue on my part more than anything-- I like things to be as CORRECT as possible. I think the author has selected these terms because he is trying to convince the reader of something. What is the writer's objective?)

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