You are calling curiosity a Fiveish motivation, but there is more than one reason for wanting to know things. nt

Posted by Tiggy on April 14, 2002 at 16:49:08:

In Reply to: Re: Randomness, fivishness, and intelligence posted by Bartholomew on April 13, 2002 at 20:41:42:

: : : They both were fives for a while. Every non-retarded child was a five for a significant portion of their life.

: : [How dyou make that out? Being non-retarded is not synonomous with being a Five. You can be intelligent without being a Five. You can be intellectual ithout being a Five.]

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: I am not a 5; I am a 6w5. I'd just like to make that clear, if it wasn't already. And I consider myself an intellectual.

: People can be intellectual for many reasons. Only one of them is curiosity. For example, another reason is societal interest, which is an issue for many types.
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: Children learn things for the sake of learning things. They do not learn as a means to an end, such as for good grades or career advancement, because they have not yet learned any "ends."

: Learning for the sake of learning is the five motivation. Children HAVE to be fives until they learn not to be--i.e., until they adopt non-five motivations.

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: I am not saying that people must be fives to be non-retarded. I am saying that people must HAVE BEEN fives to be non-retarded.

: People who did NOT have the fivish motivation in childhood are mentally disabled, because as children they did not learn as fast as more fivish children, because they didn't have as much of a motivation to learn.

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• True, but only one of those reasons is called "curiosity." Other reasons for knowing things go by different names. (nt) Bartholomew 18:46:18 04/14/02 (5)
  • You can't say someone is a Five just cos they have curiosity. What about the other Five traits? nt Tiggy 19:34:27 04/15/02 (4)
    • The 5 motivation is curiosity. Period. End of story. If someone is ruled by curiosity more than anything else, then by definition they are a 5. (nt) Bartholomew 21:27:00 04/15/02 (3)
      • Or a cat... NM Primer Gray 15:50:28 04/18/02 (0)
      • Babies aren't just motivated by curiosity. nt Tiggy 16:55:55 04/17/02 (1)
        • True. What does that have to do with what we're talking about? (nt) Bartholomew 22:20:25 04/17/02 (0)

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