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Enneagram Type 5 Board Archive My sense of "justice" (I don't think I am an 8)Posted by Anonymous on November 04, 2000 at 11:50:46: In Reply to: What do you think of my personality? posted by Anonymous on November 03, 2000 at 21:09:32: I was at first confused by my classification as an 8. Upon re-reading, I feel that I need to explain how my sense of justice works. I feel injustice whenever someone is wrong in their motive and cannot be convinced of what is right. If harm comes from the misconception, then the sense of injustice is amplified greatly. I feel no need to be strong to "protect the innocent". If someone is given a punishment for something they did not do, my sense of justice is enormously offended (the accusers are wrong and harm is coming from the wrong), and I will try to stop the punishment and convice the accusers of their error, but I do not feel a need to be strong in the event of this happening. I would much rather correct the informational wrong than try to help the one wronged without explaining. Also, I do not support punishment of any serious sort - my sense of justice does not become inflamed when someone does something bad and gets away with it, because there is no incorrect idea causing harm. About my self image - what I described is how, emotionally, I see myself. Intellectually, this image is a bit different. : I like to think about and deal my emotions a lot. I will almost never try to ignore them; the idea of it seems self destructive. I am very philosophical when dealing with my emotions, and I have gotten to the point when I can decide how I want to feel and then consciously change the way I feel to that ideal. I do not like revealing my emotions and motivations to people I know, and whenever I do this I want to avoid that person for a long time afterwards. I feel as if I were being weakened somehow in the telling. If I do not fear personal contact with the person, I can easily pour out my soul to them - so far, this situation has only occured in text - based situations such as this one. : I enjoy being the center of confused attention, preferably the attention of a group. I cannot take compliments very well, and though they please me, the confusion of how to respond usually makes me feel pretty bad. This bad feeling also disappears in a text - based situation, where I do not have to talk to the person's actual face. I cannot take criticism very well, and I ignore criticisms or try to change to topic or confuse the critic or show the critic how smart I am. With the last case, I again do not want positive attention. I crave attention in general, however, and after you take away the undesirable positive and negative attention, what is left, and what I seek for, is neutral attention. This includes, among other parts, confusion, disgust (for some reason, I don't consider disgust a negative attention), and annoyance. I will sometimes try for positive attention, but when I do this I respond with a quick, negative response - optimally, it will leave the positive attention-giver confused and insulted. I think I do this to negate the "emotional sincerity" effect that leaves me so uncomfortable. : I always want to say something intelligent. A big part of my self image is the appearance of intelligence. When I am face-to-face with a person, as I explained, I try to make the intelligent remark as confusing as possible. When I am in a text environment, I usually try to be a useful contributor, because I do not need to deal with the response to my contribution on a personal level. This post is an example of that trait. : I have a deep urge to be the best in whatever group I am in. I often feel very depressed if I am not doing well. This is partly from the need to be the center of group attention. I do not think that it helps me in any way, and although I would not discard such a large part of my personality if I could, I think I would be better off without this urge. : If I am below average at anything, I am deeply hurt, and will work hard to get myself at least above average. : If someone asks me for help with something, I try to help them. I almost never volunteer help; that would be too emotionally open. If they thank me much, as I explained, I respond with an insult or a confusing, evasive statement. : I identify myself primarily as smart and unusual, and when I find that other people think I am "just like everyone else" or stupid, I feel "wronged". This is such a strong emotion that it affects me in an impersonal, text-based environment as well. This is another personality trait that I think I would be better off without, but wouldn't rid myself of if I could. : I have a strong sense of justice and injustice, and I become extremely angry if this sense becomes offended. I honestly cannot remember a time when I have felt enough anger to control my actions when I did not perceive injustice. : I have a deep need to be consistent with myself. I philosophize to satisfy this. This need is perhaps an offshoot of my sense of justice and injustice. Whenever I feel that I have acted in an inconsistent manner, I dislike myself for a long time afterward, or at least until I can convince myself that I was, on some level, just and consistent. Now that I think of it, I guess I identify myself as just and self-consistent as well. : : Well, type me. What type am I? And what kind of a person do you think I am?
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