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Posted by Mikko on April 19, 2002 at 03:41:17:

In Reply to: Wow! Little Mikko learns all about analogies! I'm impressed! (nt) posted by Bartholomew on April 18, 2002 at 10:50:03:

: : First of all, the analogy is bad. If we required registeration for posting, people could still read the messages as much as they liked. They could walk in the coffee shop and observe the enviroment, they just couldn't buy any coffee.

: : I've seen several messageboards on the net. The most popular ones where the conversation remains most civil and which seem to attract people require registration for posting. The unrestricted boards tend to be buried under spam as a lot of people get interested in them.

: : I have an analogy too. You walk along a street thristy for a pint. You see a pub, but it's full of shouting, hostile footie hooligans because there aren't any bouncers.

: : On the other side of the street there's another pub, with three bouncers at the door, letting only well-behaving people in. People inside sound like they're having fun.

: : Which pub would you rather choose?

: : : You walk along a street, thirsty for coffee.

: : : you see a coffeeshop that looks interesting. You go in.

: : : That's what we have now.

: : : The new system will be:

: : : You walk along a street, thirsty for coffee.

: : : you see a coffeeshop that looks interesting, you push the door. It won't open.

: : : A hand pushes a form and an envelope at you through a slot in the door.

: : : A speaker above the door tell yous you need to fill out the form in full to register before you get to buy some coffee.

: : : That coffeeshop will very soon go out of business.

: : : OTOH, we are being attacked by an asshole and for various reasons, self-defense is not occurring. And this is driving away new people. The board is getting fucked.

: : : So maybe the advantages of shutting ourselves behind a wall of fire outweigh the advantages of being open.

: : : Cons:

: : : Registration: few new people coming in.
: : : Status Quo: Attacks by asshole

: : : Of course, my preference is for the status quo, plus a new, active policy of robust defense and offense against asshole.

: : :
: : : : : Many new boards have a register in which people have to type their name, address etc and can thereafter only enter with their own password.
: : : : : J

: : : : That's what I've been trying to suggest for about 1.5 years.

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Re: I bet he will have achieved more than you when he is your age NT P 11:43:18 04/20/02 (1)
- Hey, aren't you becoming a father soon? Or did it happen already? [nt] Mikko (193.234.247.50) 05:36:23 04/22/02 (0)

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: : : First of all, the analogy is bad. If we required registeration for posting, people could still read the messages as much as they liked. They could walk in the coffee shop and observe the enviroment, they just couldn't buy any coffee. : : : I've seen several messageboards on the net. The most popular ones where the conversation remains most civil and which seem to attract people require registration for posting. The unrestricted boards tend to be buried under spam as a lot of people get interested in them. : : : I have an analogy too. You walk along a street thristy for a pint. You see a pub, but it's full of shouting, hostile footie hooligans because there aren't any bouncers. : : : On the other side of the street there's another pub, with three bouncers at the door, letting only well-behaving people in. People inside sound like they're having fun. : : : Which pub would you rather choose? : : : : : You walk along a street, thirsty for coffee. : : : : you see a coffeeshop that looks interesting. You go in. : : : : That's what we have now. : : : : The new system will be: : : : : You walk along a street, thirsty for coffee. : : : : you see a coffeeshop that looks interesting, you push the door. It won't open. : : : : A hand pushes a form and an envelope at you through a slot in the door. : : : : A speaker above the door tell yous you need to fill out the form in full to register before you get to buy some coffee. : : : : That coffeeshop will very soon go out of business. : : : : OTOH, we are being attacked by an asshole and for various reasons, self-defense is not occurring. And this is driving away new people. The board is getting fucked. : : : : So maybe the advantages of shutting ourselves behind a wall of fire outweigh the advantages of being open. : : : : Cons: : : : : Registration: few new people coming in. : : : : Status Quo: Attacks by asshole : : : : Of course, my preference is for the status quo, plus a new, active policy of robust defense and offense against asshole. : : : : : : : : : : Many new boards have a register in which people have to type their name, address etc and can thereafter only enter with their own password. : : : : : : J : : : : : That's what I've been trying to suggest for about 1.5 years.

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