Re: I just got told either get demoted or let go

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> I don't mind tallking to strangers about practical things, I don't even care about being hung up upon. Just as long as we don't have to get personal and 'talk about feelings', but keep the conversation focused on doing business, I'm okay. > I agree with being on the phone all day though, I don't care for it either, I'd rather do paper work, but, at this point, I don't have much other opportunites I could jump into, and I'm through with temping. At least with this job, when you call for buisness, if you don't get it, you still get a base, but with calling for temp work, if you don't get any assignments, you don't get a paycheck, period. Plus you still have to pay for using your own phone. > Out of curiousity, when you quit, to where did you move to next? What do you do now? > > > I worked for a short time in something like sales. It was telemarking. Soliciting money for the cops, of all things. I didn't last very long at that job. Toward the end I would get on the phone with any number of made-up personae. One of my favorites was "Jimmie" from Jersey City. > > We had to call a deadbeat list one time -- people who pledged to send in money last year but never did it. The convo went something like this: > > Me: Good evening, Mr. Parikh, this is Jimmie callin' on behalf of the New Jersey Fraternal Ordah of Police. I'm jes callin' tuh let yoo know we'ah havin' our Spring fund drive. > > Mr. Parikh: Uhhh I'm really not-- > > Me: -- Now according to our records, Mr. Parikh, it sez heah that last ye-ah you pledged thirty five dollahs, but we never got it. What happened? > > (waits for a response) > > Mr. Parikh: Well, uhhhh, it must have gotten lost in the mai--- > > Me: ---- OHHHH lost in the mail. I see. Likely story. Well lucky fuh yoo we're havin' anutha fund drive, so tell me Mr. Parikh, how much you given the cops today? > > ... > > Sometimes people would get really pissed off at this gimmick, but I had one woman (from Bayonne of course) give me $35 just because she thought I was so goddamn funny. > > You were supposed to start them off at the highest dollar amount, and when they refused that, you were supposed to sell down. So for instance if they couldn't do $35, you suggest $25, and if they can't do that, etc. If people got irate with me, I'd just start selling up: > > "I'm sorry Mrs. Dmzschwsky, is thirty-five too much? Would you be more comfortable with fifty five?" -- "You fucking asshole, how dare you call me at home how did you get this number?" -- "Just this one time, I'll make an exception and give you the decal for only sixty-five, you'll receive your pledge kit in 2-3 days..." > > I was gone in two months. Not because they fired me. Nothing short of shanking a manager will get you fired from a gig like this, and even then, if it's a floor manager, you may still get away with it. I finally just quit after not showing up for two weeks. Fuck that. I hate talking to strangers, and I hate the phone even more. My 4w5 friend who got me the job has been doing it for four years now. I'll never understand that. > > > > > > Margaret, > > > > What kind of work do you do where you encounter this all day long? I'm curious. > > > ***Sales. But I have been having a hard time because I've had two things against me. Our customers are *very* pushy. And you have to push back or you won't last. (This part is the lying, 'bluffing', part, because that's what the pushing is all about - getting the best deal for yourself). Actually, it's not really that bad, if I had to deal with only one weakness I would be okay. > > > But there is a second strike against me - that our product is throwing out numbers. And I am not 'quick' in that area. Although it's finally starting to make sense somewhat, and I can actually do it, I am still not able to as fast as everyone else at this point. > > > The biggest problem is that I have to work with two weaknesses at the exact same time. If I only had to work with either one of the weaknesses alone, one at a time, I would be just fine, but not both simultaneously. > > > At least not at this point. > > > With having to work with two weaknesses at the exact same time, I need some more time to get better at it, to get the hang of it. However, today, my manager said it's too late. I have not been able to keep up and he is going to get someone to replace me. However, he said, he would still be willing to keep me as a telemarketer, move me in the front with the admins, have me cold calling and then give them over to the top sales people who can do the pricing really quick. > > > Which is the other problem. I don't want to get them just to lose them to someone else just because I can't do the pricing and close them as the exact same time. Plus I really like doing the paperwork. > > > But having to work two weaknesses at once, I either need someone else to do the math for me, then I can do the pushing for them to close, or I can do the math alone but without talking to people who end up breaking my concentration by pushing me out of it. It is impossible for me to do both at the exact same time. I cannot both push against and do math simultaneously. It is not possible at the current moment. I can't do two weaknesses at once right now. > > > But my manager is not interested in waiting for me to get up to speed, he needs to meet his numbers. > > > I don't know. I guess getting demoted is better than getting fired straight out, but, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know right now. > > > Maybe you need to change to a different work environment. If you're sensitive to it, it's gotta be depleting you. Work with animals? > > > > Or kids? Or senior citizens?....if you can't work around the lying and cannot create a system of thwarting their attempts at taking advantage that works, I'd suggest leaving if you are able. > > > > The workplace is rife with such things. I supposedly work in an environment where we are training "healers" and I think it's the worst I've ever seen it anywhere. Manipulation, lying, ego...you name it. > > > > It's difficult to block out this kind of energy. Like I mention there are practices out there-meditative in nature-to protect yourself from the effects of dealing with these kind of people. I don't have any suggestions on hand, but maybe someone else out there does. Some 5s maybe. They seem to be walking Books of Knowledge. > > > > Personally I strive to say what I mean - I am not as gifted as others in verbalizing what goes on internally, but I am naturally honest and work on making myself clear and understood.....if someone in a work situation is trying to manipulate me, I don't always come straight out and point it out to them. But I let them know in some way that I see what they're doing & they're not getting anywhere with me. The older I get, the more often I hit them between the eyes. I interact with each person on an individual basis and on some level determine how it's best to communicate w/them, if at all. I would like people to treat me the way I treat them, but it's a high expectation. We're dealing with neurosis - greed, selfishness -chemical imbalance, personality disorders, spiritual poverty. Compassion helps a bit, although is hard. Think: What must their lives be like, their childhood, for them to behave this way or feel they have to? Sad really. > > > ***I could never do that. I hate working with people's 'feelings'. I like paper work better. Even if it's numbers. I would pick working with numbers over 'feelings' anyday. The only reason I am able to survive this job is because they just want to focus on the numbers and close quick. They don't want to waste time on 'feelings'. And that is the biggest reason why I took it. > > > > > > > I know people, friends although I use this word sparingly, who are honest and direct. Maybe you should surround yourself on the home front anyway with such people. Or even if they are not yet adept at expressing themselves honestly, they handle being called on their behavior at least. > > > > I grew up with my older sister is a habitual liar. As she's aged she's become better than she was. She wanted to be perceived in a certain light so would lie to try to impress or gain acceptance.....her friend of 10yrs called her on it("you don't have to lie to me, I love you no matter what") and my sister didn't speak with her for a year. > > > > > ***Are you Intuitive or Sensor on Myers-Brigg? > > > > I score: INFP. Have only taken it 3 times or so. I don't know much about MB. What about you? > > > ***INFP too. > > > > ~DQ

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