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Posted by Rotten Apple on November 21, 2000 at 11:08:13:

In Reply to: Re: Context posted by Laurence on November 21, 2000 at 01:21:27:

: "Manners", or I'd prefer standardised expectations, are derived from a set of collective values, thus the difference is more in terms of external vs internal values, isn't it, to be precise!!!

Laurence,

We could spend an eternity defining terms and never say PRECISELY what we mean. Here's what interests me: The distinction internal/external is very black/white for the 5... what about other personalities? Do you think the line between external/internal is blurred for most people? Internal values being directly linked to/derived from external sources rather than constructed internally through reason and intuition. (Ofcourse, not even 5s escape internalizing external values systems!)

Now, (here's the devilish part) could the 5, in possession of his/her own mind/values, externalize those values (using mere insistance rather than logical argument) and actually shape the perception of those around them? Not that 5s are interested in that kind of thing... simply curious about possiblity.

: Regarding sex, two things might help:
: 1)-Physical cleanliness!!!!
: 2)-A minimum of feelings and gentleness

Haha... that's just beautiful. 5 women are the best kind.

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: : "Manners", or I'd prefer standardised expectations, are derived from a set of collective values, thus the difference is more in terms of external vs internal values, isn't it, to be precise!!! : Laurence, : We could spend an eternity defining terms and never say PRECISELY what we mean. Here's what interests me: The distinction internal/external is very black/white for the 5... what about other personalities? Do you think the line between external/internal is blurred for most people? Internal values being directly linked to/derived from external sources rather than constructed internally through reason and intuition. (Ofcourse, not even 5s escape internalizing external values systems!) : Now, (here's the devilish part) could the 5, in possession of his/her own mind/values, externalize those values (using mere insistance rather than logical argument) and actually shape the perception of those around them? Not that 5s are interested in that kind of thing... simply curious about possiblity. : : Regarding sex, two things might help: : : 1)-Physical cleanliness!!!! : : 2)-A minimum of feelings and gentleness : Haha... that's just beautiful. 5 women are the best kind. : RA

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