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Posted by Cjarlez (205.188.208.106) on June 16, 2003 at 18:09:21:

In Reply to: Re: ON STOIC PHILOSOPHY posted by Dr Phil (65.96.84.123) on June 16, 2003 at 14:00:26:

> Hey Charlie
> remember Davide Hume: Reason is and ought to be the slave to the passions!

Dear Dr. Phil,

Passion implies a need to do and attain something; happiness is the end-result. A passion is a desire, but on a stronger, more lasting scale.

Reason maps out a course for which a passion may be fulfilled, and the will carries out the actions that reason deem approriate to acting on the passion. There is mutual dependence here, not slavery. Reason is not one-dimensional like Hume would have you believe.

There are different kinds of passions. Intellectual, physical, internal and external. These often come in conflict with another. Reason has the function of determining which passions are good and consistent with the organism's overall goal of happiness, and which ones are inconsistent. Reason is, "and ought to be" a judge and a guide to the passions. Remember Plato's famous metaphor: reason is the charioteer which should prevent the passions and the emotions from pulling the chariot off-track.

Sincerely,
Cjarlez

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> > Hey Charlie > > remember Davide Hume: Reason is and ought to be the slave to the passions! > Dear Dr. Phil, > Passion implies a need to do and attain something; happiness is the end-result. A passion is a desire, but on a stronger, more lasting scale. > Reason maps out a course for which a passion may be fulfilled, and the will carries out the actions that reason deem approriate to acting on the passion. There is mutual dependence here, not slavery. Reason is not one-dimensional like Hume would have you believe. > There are different kinds of passions. Intellectual, physical, internal and external. These often come in conflict with another. Reason has the function of determining which passions are good and consistent with the organism's overall goal of happiness, and which ones are inconsistent. Reason is, "and ought to be" a judge and a guide to the passions. Remember Plato's famous metaphor: reason is the charioteer which should prevent the passions and the emotions from pulling the chariot off-track. > Sincerely, > Cjarlez

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