RE: "THE GOLDEN RULE"

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> > WHICH YOU LIKE BETTER... MISSIONARY OR DOGGIE STYLE? > > I'll take two aspirins and get back to you on the rest of this.... > > > I will try to define the Enneagram in terms of quantum, chaos, and comlexity theories which constitute the New Science. I have studied science but am not a student now though I read about it. So anyone majoring in this or similar fields or anyone who has the insight can correct or add to the following. > > > The quantum vacuum is a sea of potentialities, an infinite array of possibilities out of which quantum entities emerge (actualities arise from potentialities). Since real life objects are based on quantum entities this has close relationship with what is happening around us. > YEA? > > > The properties of these emerged new entities *cannot* be explained in terms of its potentialities; the whole is greater than its parts. Furthermore, the new entity (or actuality) arises when measurement or observation takes place. The kind of measurement (the tools, the measurer) determine the kind of actuality. In short, the observer sees what he is looking for. Or nothing exists until the observer observes. > THE SOUNDLESS FELLING OF A TREE IN THE WOODS WHEN NO ONE IS AROUND...OK WITH YA... > > > So the world is created by the combination of all the relative perspectives of human beings. Actually, even if the world we live in is created by us an absolute truth exists. It is the objective reality, the Mind of God. It is the combination of *all* human minds within the framework of eternity. > I CAN'T ARGUE THIS... > > > It is not possible for any human being to observe this objective reality because he is involved in the making of it. There is a God's view though, available only to God. > NOT TRUE... A higher mind can involve itself ..What your sayin is that there only one authority....ONLY ONE ABSOLUTE "SEER"...THATS WRONG... > > > If one could rise above it all s/he would have an instant view of the 4-dimensional space-time we live in. It would be like rising high in an airplane and viewing the continent from above. > Who among us has not pondered this view of this "world" or "existance" you speak of?...you just did.... > > > *All* properties in this world are emergent since all have quantum foundation. All things are aspects of the underlying single substance called the quantum vacuum. So, again, *nothing* in this world can be reduced to the sum of its constituent parts. The whole is always greater. > OK SHRUGGIN.... > > > Now to the Enneagram: > > > The Enneagram is the sea of human potentialities. The Personality Types emerge from this underlying ground state.. Whatever is said above for quantum entities would be true for the types: That Types cannot be reduced to a collection of traits. That the sum of all Types is the absolute true personality which cannot be visioned from the viewpoint of any type. It is again God'-eye view. Then the total integration around the Enneagram would mean transcending thsi world. > THE MORE WE UNDERSTAND ABOUT OURSELVES THE BETTER WE DEAL WITH OTHERS..ITS THAT SIMPLE... > > > Onto another aspect of science: > > > Every quantum entity which has fluctuated from the vacuum has both a wavelike and a particle-like aspect. The wavelike aspect is indeterminate, spread all over space and time and the realm of the possibilities.. The particle-like aspect is determinate, fixed in space and time, limited to the realm of actualities. > UH HUH ...OK I NEED A BEER...ONE SEC.. > > > The wave is in dialogue with the surroundings. The waves of all quantum entities are entangled, interwoven. They interact in a holistic manner, meaning they give rise to new realities which are totally different. A change at some place brings a correlated change somewhere else. > EVERY ACTION RIPPLES....EVERY PUSH YEILDS.... > > > Now to the Enneagram: > > > Personality Types can be viewed as quantum entities. The motivations of the Types are fixed and determinate.. Each type has also an indeterminate wavelike aspect, meaning its traits are interwoven with other traits in the potentiality sea of the Enneagram. There is interaction which produces the unique human being. > YES AND THIS "WAVELIKE" ACTION IS THE KEY TO HIGHER MIND...OUR ABILTIY TO TRANSCEND...BUT A HIGHER ORDER OR GOD HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS....IT COMES FROM WITHIN OURSELVES..AND THE WAY WE REACT TO AND TREAT OTHERS... > > > Heisenberg's Uncertainty Principle says that quantum reality is uncertain and shadowy. Which means, if we concentrate on one aspect of the entity we lose the complementary aspect. Like particles/waves. If we look at the entity as a particle we get a sense of the isolated part at the expense of the whole (the spreading out wave). It is the same with Personality Types. Focusing on the motivations or other definite manifestations of the motivations costs us perspective on the human being. Gaining perspective distances us from the deatils. So there is uncertainty, indeterminacy, unpredictability built into the human behavior. The Enneagram enables us to view the human personality more thoroughly because it defines the motivations (particle aspect) and it leaves the sea of traits, the wavelike structure, open to interaction. > YEA OK....I THINK AFTER ALL THIS...I'M NOT REALLY ARGUING WITH YOU AFTER ALL...BUT ITS NOT THAT COMPLICATED....It's really very simple Gigi....DO UNTO OTHERS.....ETC.... > > > > > > > I hope I have been able to express myself clearly. > I JUST DID > DEECEE > > > > > >

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