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Posted by Cory on February 22, 2000 at 18:14:06:

In Reply to: Two ways o so different posted by Perciever on February 22, 2000 at 17:48:52:

> There are two ways to motivate humans to behave in a desired
> manner...

> 1. Penalize and punish.
> 2. Persuade and promote.

> # 1. uses negative reinforcement. It is the foundation of our criminal
> justice system. crime and punishment. or in a soccer game, break
> a rule and the other team gets a penalty kick.

> # 2. uses positive reinforcement. It motivates people on a more
> humane level. For example if you do this, you will earn this.
> Highlights the benifits of cooperation, and goodness.

> NF's and SJ's typically assume cooperative leadership roles in the world. Take
> this board for instance!!!!

Oh come on! You and everyone around here knows I'm not that nice. I never cooperate with anyone. You and I even got into it the other week! See that's the thing about temperment...NFs are supposedly empathetic, inspiring, etc...but do I look that way to you?

Well ok, I let go of hard feelings after a while after I start feeling guilty. And I don't get into fights as easily or be so outspoken in real life, as I am on here.

> An SJ's motivation is societies upkeep and preservation.
> An NT's motivation is to unlock the secrets of nature in order to tame
> it. And by nature I mean the nature of reality and the tangable rules
> which govern it.

Doesn't that negate the enneagram then? That's like reducing everyone to 4 basic motivations. Does Al Gore seem to be "unlocking the secrets of nature" to you? I've also heard David Bowie is an NT, ditto on him. That is more of a Five's motivation, and all NTs aren't Fives. You are an INTJ 6...so what is your prime motivation: Unlocking the secrets of the universe, or finding security?

-Cory

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> > There are two ways to motivate humans to behave in a desired > > manner... > > 1. Penalize and punish. > > 2. Persuade and promote. > > # 1. uses negative reinforcement. It is the foundation of our criminal > > justice system. crime and punishment. or in a soccer game, break > > a rule and the other team gets a penalty kick. > > # 2. uses positive reinforcement. It motivates people on a more > > humane level. For example if you do this, you will earn this. > > Highlights the benifits of cooperation, and goodness. > > NF's and SJ's typically assume cooperative leadership roles in the world. Take > > this board for instance!!!! > Oh come on! You and everyone around here knows I'm not that nice. I never cooperate with anyone. You and I even got into it the other week! See that's the thing about temperment...NFs are supposedly empathetic, inspiring, etc...but do I look that way to you? > Well ok, I let go of hard feelings after a while after I start feeling guilty. And I don't get into fights as easily or be so outspoken in real life, as I am on here. > > An SJ's motivation is societies upkeep and preservation. > > An NT's motivation is to unlock the secrets of nature in order to tame > > it. And by nature I mean the nature of reality and the tangable rules > > which govern it. > Doesn't that negate the enneagram then? That's like reducing everyone to 4 basic motivations. Does Al Gore seem to be "unlocking the secrets of nature" to you? I've also heard David Bowie is an NT, ditto on him. That is more of a Five's motivation, and all NTs aren't Fives. You are an INTJ 6...so what is your prime motivation: Unlocking the secrets of the universe, or finding security? > -Cory

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