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Re: NF temperment

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Posted by Perciever on February 23, 2000 at 09:17:18:

In Reply to: NF temperment posted by Cory on February 22, 2000 at 18:14:06:

> > There are two ways to motivate humans to behave in a desired
> > manner...

> > 1. Penalize and punish.
> > 2. Persuade and promote.

> > # 1. uses negative reinforcement. It is the foundation of our criminal
> > justice system. crime and punishment. or in a soccer game, break
> > a rule and the other team gets a penalty kick.

> > # 2. uses positive reinforcement. It motivates people on a more
> > humane level. For example if you do this, you will earn this.
> > Highlights the benifits of cooperation, and goodness.

> > NF's and SJ's typically assume cooperative leadership roles in the world. Take
> > this board for instance!!!!

> Oh come on! You and everyone around here knows I'm not that nice. I never cooperate with anyone. You and I even got into it the other week! See that's the thing about temperment...NFs are supposedly empathetic, inspiring, etc...but do I look that way to you?

***It is not uncommon for NF males to assume a macho, daring role to better fit into societies sterotype image of the strong man.

> > An SJ's motivation is societies upkeep and preservation.
> > An NT's motivation is to unlock the secrets of nature in order to tame
> > it. And by nature I mean the nature of reality and the tangable rules
> > which govern it.

> Doesn't that negate the enneagram then? That's like reducing everyone to 4 basic motivations. Does Al Gore seem to be "unlocking the secrets of nature" to you? I've also heard David Bowie is an NT, ditto on him. That is more of a Five's motivation, and all NTs aren't Fives. You are an INTJ 6...so what is your prime motivation: Unlocking the secrets of the universe, or finding security?

I dont need to answer these questions. Unless you've been asleep all along, you should know the answers.

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> > > There are two ways to motivate humans to behave in a desired > > > manner... > > > 1. Penalize and punish. > > > 2. Persuade and promote. > > > # 1. uses negative reinforcement. It is the foundation of our criminal > > > justice system. crime and punishment. or in a soccer game, break > > > a rule and the other team gets a penalty kick. > > > # 2. uses positive reinforcement. It motivates people on a more > > > humane level. For example if you do this, you will earn this. > > > Highlights the benifits of cooperation, and goodness. > > > NF's and SJ's typically assume cooperative leadership roles in the world. Take > > > this board for instance!!!! > > Oh come on! You and everyone around here knows I'm not that nice. I never cooperate with anyone. You and I even got into it the other week! See that's the thing about temperment...NFs are supposedly empathetic, inspiring, etc...but do I look that way to you? > ***It is not uncommon for NF males to assume a macho, daring role to better fit into societies sterotype image of the strong man. > > > An SJ's motivation is societies upkeep and preservation. > > > An NT's motivation is to unlock the secrets of nature in order to tame > > > it. And by nature I mean the nature of reality and the tangable rules > > > which govern it. > > Doesn't that negate the enneagram then? That's like reducing everyone to 4 basic motivations. Does Al Gore seem to be "unlocking the secrets of nature" to you? I've also heard David Bowie is an NT, ditto on him. That is more of a Five's motivation, and all NTs aren't Fives. You are an INTJ 6...so what is your prime motivation: Unlocking the secrets of the universe, or finding security? > I dont need to answer these questions. Unless you've been asleep all along, you should know the answers.

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