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Re: Personality & Spirituality are different disciplines with the same structure...
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Posted by Gigi on March 02, 2000 at 12:44:38:
In Reply to: Personality & Spirituality are different disciplines with the same structure... posted by BlueLamp on March 01, 2000 at 15:13:53:
John, I am interested in the interview of Brian Greene in the Enneagram Journal. Which issue is it please? I plan to read his book. Also, where is Tony Smith's site? The search could not locate it. See you around to talk about quantum and similar stuff! Gigi Yes you are correct about one's basic type bias staying the same as one > ideally gets healthier in all types... these types could be described by > the Enneagram, the MBTI or another personality model. The differences > between healthy versions of two types are smaller than the differences > between unhealthy versions... all types are essentially reaching for the > same profound (yes profound) end destination where everybody kind of sees > everybody as being the same... the perfectly ideal end destination is > I suspect something that no one ever really gets to. Spirituality is it's > own thing with the same structure as personality. You can use personality > to describe spiritual progress either in the Bible or on the Buddhist > Wheel of Life... this does not mean the two are the same, personality is > to spirituality as math is to physics, math and physics aren't the same > any more than personality and spirituality are the same but math can be > used to describe physics just like personality can be used to describe > spirituality... forming a healthier personality is just a single but > important part of a spirituality Enneagram... it would map to Jesus's life > in the Gospels for Christianity or to psycho-physical for the Buddhist > Wheel of Life (E7)... The rest of a Spiritual Enneagram is concerned with > birth, death and things that happen before birth and after death... things > like hell and heaven could have physics descriptions, hell could be > another big bang and heaven could be a gigantic Simplex physics quantum > computer for example but spiritual people have in their way noticed the > quaternionic fractal structure of everything long before science which > is just now getting to an Enneagrammish model of things... The most > popular string physics model was created by Brian Greene and Brian was > interviewed in an Enneagram Journal. Tony Smith, no lightweight himself > with 13 papers at the national archive in Los Alamos, has the best > Enneagram related model in my opinion (and his model actually calculates > particle masses unlike Brian Greene's)... Tony mentions alot of 8 > becomes 9 and 16 on 12 spiritual symbolism at his website... he also > mentions the MBTI and a Jewish Enneagram model... he is trying to place > the conventional Enneagram historically before adding it to his site... > The 4th is defintely a different/shadowy thing... like time is for three > dimensional space... like electrons are for red, green and blue quarks... > like outer spacetime is for inner spacetime, inner spacetime waves and > outer spacetime waves... like up matter is for down matter, down matter > waves and up matter waves... like parallel universes are for spacetime, > matter and antimatter... like real numbers are for i,j and k imaginary > numbers...like introvert/extravert is for perceiving (S/N), judging (T/F) > and the J/P function... like I/E levels for circumplexes are for my > three circumplexes without I/E levels... like humanity is for the > Christian Trinity... like heaven is for limbo/purgatory, eden/hell and > earth... like the Buddhist white bardos is for the red, green and blue > ones... like the realms quaternity is for the sentience, form and spirit > quaternities... like the partnership quaternity is for the ego, mediator, > and protege quaternities... like the bliss quaternity is for the > anarchy, democracy and harmony quaternities... John
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