Re: Enneatype: Defense Mechanism?

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: : : Sorry for jumping to conlusions here. I thought you said you was a five, : : : but at second look it seems like you are a four, and then I can understand if : : : he should be an eight. However I don't like to think of the ISTJ as a : : : typical eight, but that could be very wrong. If you read the MBTI description : : : of ISTJ and think what type it resonates with I think you see what I mean. : : : Anyway, sorry for jumping on to fast here. : : : : : : Andy : : I don't think I could prove he's an eight without sounding like I'm bragging- (even though his lack of empathy and overconfidence has caused some major hassles). He doesn't know how to be a passive agressive 6. : : He's got a huge heart if you dig and dig and dig. : : Anyways....... I think he's a good example of what I was saying about defense mechanisms. The eight, is a role he plays very well in order to get what he wants from people and out of life. If you call him on it - he knows he's doing it and will laugh. But he refuses to stop doing it. : : Instead of comparing MBTI to Enneagram, maybe we should delve into the correlations of Enneagram to NLP. : I would say that what you say about him knowing about this eight role : is more a six thing, because male 6w7 often resembles eights. If he was : an eight I don't think he would go as far as admitting anything, because : he would not see it himself. And when you talk about the passive-agressive : sixes, thats nines. Or some phobic sixes. But not the counterphobics. : BUT all this is stupid of me to write, because the way I see it is a : 5 minute (real world) conversation the only way to decide. : I think the easiest way to type someone is when they are in a stressed : situation, and they defence mecansim-s begins to show. : Talking of military, I belive it's a few ENTJ and a lot ESTJ supervisors there : that loves to give orders and hate reciving them, that's the ones : I would call eight's. : : The NLP system is a guide to how you should become a 3 the way I see it. : Myself I haven't found anything to gain in the NLP system, what's the : point of becoming more in-autentic. : : The only intresting part in it the way I see it is the way it can identify : if someone uses an Audio-digital, Audio, kinestic or Visual preference. : This should be possible to identify by looking at how someone uses their eyes. : I also belive there is poosible to collorate this to jungian functions. : Meaning you can actually see if someone is using introverted functions, : you should also be able to pinpoint the exact function. : To put it to the MBTI I belive the link is something like this... : NT -Visual, but some are also a bit audective (right-brain dominace) : NF -Visual, but some are also a bit audective (right-brain dominace) : It's strange but, many creative musicans and writers are mostly visual. : SOme visuals, are very sensitive to sensations, and I guess most : hypersensetive people fit in here. When talking hypersensetivety, I mean : sensetive to sensory owerload. : SJ -Audective (left-brain dominace)(these are the best at scool) : Learns and remember in a taperecorder way, one thing after the other. : Because our scools are Audective with pure memoration, the visuals : and kinestics are the ones that suffers most in scool. : SP -Kinestic (left-dominace)(these are the ones that beat's you in bowling) : This are all my ungrounded hunces, but I belive them to be quite true. : If you want proof's go look for it. : After reading all this you should belive that f.ex the visual is best at : finding errors in writing like this, but that's wrong. That's the Audective . : A clear proof of this is dyslectics that about always are visual and not audective... : Of course, the Kinestic is best at sports and the visual best at creative things. : Based on this I belive there should be possible to do a link of this to the : enneagram. : Your man Christy, should be good at remembering names and things you have said : wordly right (like a tape recorder). But bad at faces and remembering things : visually. : Since you are a four I would guess you are the oposite of this. : Let's say that you was at a place an talked to some people, I would say : you would be best at describing the place you visited, while he would be best : at saying the names at those you talked to and maybe remeber a sentence : or two from the conversation. You on the other hand would be good at remembering : their faces. : : Any hit rate at all ? : : (hopes this sounds better than the two times I have given book rewiews in class : whitout reading the book) : Now, I am fed up and don't bother to write more. (Did someone say- thanks ?) : Hope not...:)

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