Re: Enneatype: Defense Mechanism?


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Posted by Christy on July 02, 1998 at 09:37:57:

In Reply to: Re: Enneatype: Defense Mechanism? posted by Any on July 01, 1998 at 17:13:11:

: I would say that what you say about him knowing about this eight role
: is more a six thing, because male 6w7 often resembles eights. If he was
: an eight I don't think he would go as far as admitting anything, because
: he would not see it himself. And when you talk about the passive-agressive
: sixes, thats nines. Or some phobic sixes. But not the counterphobics.
: BUT all this is stupid of me to write, because the way I see it is a
: 5 minute (real world) conversation the only way to decide.
: I think the easiest way to type someone is when they are in a stressed
: situation, and they defence mecansim-s begins to show.

: Talking of military, I belive it's a few ENTJ and a lot ESTJ supervisors there
: that loves to give orders and hate reciving them, that's the ones
: I would call eight's.

:
: The NLP system is a guide to how you should become a 3 the way I see it.

: Myself I haven't found anything to gain in the NLP system, what's the
: point of becoming more in-autentic.

:
: The only intresting part in it the way I see it is the way it can identify
: if someone uses an Audio-digital, Audio, kinestic or Visual preference.

: This should be possible to identify by looking at how someone uses their eyes.
: I also belive there is poosible to collorate this to jungian functions.
: Meaning you can actually see if someone is using introverted functions,
: you should also be able to pinpoint the exact function.

: To put it to the MBTI I belive the link is something like this...

: NT -Visual, but some are also a bit audective (right-brain dominace)
: NF -Visual, but some are also a bit audective (right-brain dominace)
: It's strange but, many creative musicans and writers are mostly visual.
: SOme visuals, are very sensitive to sensations, and I guess most
: hypersensetive people fit in here. When talking hypersensetivety, I mean
: sensetive to sensory owerload.


: SJ -Audective (left-brain dominace)(these are the best at scool)
: Learns and remember in a taperecorder way, one thing after the other.
: Because our scools are Audective with pure memoration, the visuals
: and kinestics are the ones that suffers most in scool.

: SP -Kinestic (left-dominace)(these are the ones that beat's you in bowling)
: This are all my ungrounded hunces, but I belive them to be quite true.
: If you want proof's go look for it.

: After reading all this you should belive that f.ex the visual is best at
: finding errors in writing like this, but that's wrong. That's the Audective .
: A clear proof of this is dyslectics that about always are visual and not audective...

: Of course, the Kinestic is best at sports and the visual best at creative things.

: Based on this I belive there should be possible to do a link of this to the
: enneagram.

: Your man Christy, should be good at remembering names and things you have said
: wordly right (like a tape recorder). But bad at faces and remembering things
: visually.

: Since you are a four I would guess you are the oposite of this.

: Let's say that you was at a place an talked to some people, I would say
: you would be best at describing the place you visited, while he would be best
: at saying the names at those you talked to and maybe remeber a sentence
: or two from the conversation. You on the other hand would be good at remembering
: their faces.

:
: Any hit rate at all ?

:
: (hopes this sounds better than the two times I have given book rewiews in class
: whitout reading the book)

: Now, I am fed up and don't bother to write more. (Did someone say- thanks ?)
: Hope not...:)

I was going to take a summer class at Loyola Univ about NLP/Enneagram, but I found out about it too late to register. Maybe next summer. I wish I knew more about NLP. I've taken left-brain, right brain tests and scored very left brained. Only missed 2 on the left brain IQ test. Visual? I can't remember faces, auditory? I can't remember names either. But I can rehash the whole event as to what I felt, what other's reactions were, why they reacted that way, and tear the whole situation down for you.
My husband - he's more detail oriented over all and can remember faces better than I can as well as names.

After thought ----- I have a strange habit of losing color swatches for the paints I've used in redecorating my house. Then I have to go to the store with absolutely nothing - just with an idea of what color it is, and I always pick out the same exact color in a different brand. I think that's an intuitive function though. The process of visualization is hidden and more connected to the feelings that color gave me. I know that in order for me to learn or remember anything I have to "see" it written.
I guess I am visual - but more in a linguistic way.

Any of the 4s - what colors and music do you prefer? I ended up painting half my house in this color "angelic white" which is soft spiritual blue before I knew that blue is a meditative color. My favorite composer is Chopin.





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