Posted by Harley on April 27, 2000 at 23:10:29:
In Reply to: Men want sex more than women! Read on! posted by Diarmuid on April 27, 2000 at 13:12:12:
> Look, I don't want to argue with you, I want to educate you.
WHY THANK YOU SO MUCH ALL SEEING, ALL KNOWING ONE
> I don't think "feminist" is a dirty word, BTW.
NO, IT'S NOT
> We have one point of disagreement: men and women's sexual appetite
YES, I HAVE BEEN REFUTING YOUR ARGUMENTS AND YOU ARE UNWILLING TO LISTEN. YOU ARE ARGUING GENERALISATIONS BASED ON????
> We're not talking about rape or romance here, just genitally-based sex.
RAPE IS AN ACT OF VOILENCE, IT IS NOT ABOUT SEX. ROMANCE IS ALSO NOT ABOUT SEX, ALTHOUGH IT CAN LEAD TO IT. BUT YOU CAN HAVE SEX WITHOUT ROMANCE.
> Men want it more. So what? This is an advantage for women, not a bad thing!This is the basis of most female power. Women can force men to think about sex by acting sexually. Men can't.
I DO NOT THINK THAT MEN WANT IT MORE. I HAVE BEEN FACED WITH TOO MANY MEN WHO CAN'T GET IT UP AFTER THEY'VE BEEN TALKING BIG ABOUT THEMSELVES FOR HOWEVER LONG TO HAVE ANY FAITH IN THAT "MEN ARE BIOLOGICALLY DRIVEN TO INSEMINATE AS MANY WOMEN AS THEY CAN" CRAP. IF THIS WERE TRUE THET WOULD BE ABLE TO PERFORM AT ANY TIME, ALL THE TIME, AS MANY TIMES IN A ROW AS IS WANTED (WHICH, INCIDENTALLY, WOMEN CAN!)
WOMEN CANNOT FORCE AN IMPOTENT MAN TO HAVE SEX WITH THEM. I KNOW, I'VE TRIED!
> Some exceptions, sure. But any non-deformed woman under thirty, who weighs less than 150 pounds can do this trick. You cannot say the same for guys.
I COME FROM A COUNTRY WHERE WE USE THE METRIC SYSTEM, SO I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT THIS MEANS ITHER THAN THAT YOU ARE NOT ONLY SEXIST, YOU ARE ALSO FAT-IST.
> Every time a slim woman walks down a street wearing a midriff-top and shorts, every man who sees her thinks about sex. Her personality and hairstyle don't affect this. Nor does the face, unless it's shockingly ugly or deformed or very hairy.
I HAVE SEVERAL VERY LARGE WOMEN FRIENDS WHO ARE AS SEXY, IF NOT SEXIER THAN ANY BEANPOLE I CAN THINK OF. YOU ARE STARTING TO LOOK LIKE YOU MIGHT HAVE SOME PROBLEMS YOU SHOULD BE SPEAKING TO YOUR THERAPIST ABOUT.
> Why does the notion that men are more sex-crazed than women bother you?
IT DOESN'T BOTHER ME. I'M JUST PUTTING FORWARD THE CASE THAT***IT MAY NOT BE TRUE***!!!
It's not like you have no sexual desires. You do.
WHY THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME PERMISSION TO BE A LUSTY OLE THING.
But as the man said, "no woman on earth has the sex drive of the average man".
NO WOMAN??? PLEASE SHOW ME THE PROOF.
This is neither an insult nor a compliment to women.
BUT IT'S JUST NOT TRUE. IT IS A RIDICULOUS STATEMENT.
Why would any woman want to be as horny as the average guy? You'd just be fucking all the time.
I WOULD ENJOY THE CHANCE, I'VE JUST NEVER HAD A LOVER WHO KEPT ME TOTALLY HAPPY. HMMM...KINDA DISPELS YOUR ARGUMENT...NO?
Instead of concentrating on your work, you'd fantasise about two-thirds of your male colleagues (including fat and bald ones) every 15 minutes.
NO?? EVER HAD TO NICK OUT TO THE LOOS AND MASTURBATE DURING THE DAY?
> You'd never be able to have a proper conversation with any good-looking man without obsessively imagining yourselves having rough sex
OR EVEN GENTLE SEX. SEX IN HIS CAR, SEX OUT IN AN ALLEY, ON THE ROOF, IN THE PLAYGOUND ON THE SWINGS...NOW, WHAT WAS HE SAYING AGAIN...
> You would frequently rub yourself raw, as 85% of young males do, through excessive masturbation.
LUBE
> Personally, I'd love it if men, including myself, had women's more subtle, less pronounced attitude to sexual intercourse.
SURELY YOUR ENCOUNTERS WITH THE ENNEAGRAM MIGHT HAVE TAUGHT YOU THAT THERE IS NOT JUST ONE BIG DIVIDING LINE THAT SPLITS THE EARTH DOWN THE MIDDLE. WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT MOTIVATIONS, PASSIONS, FEARS, DESIRES. WHAT MAKES YOU THINK THAT ALL WOMEN ARE SUBTLE AND LESS PRONOUNCED IN THEIR ATTITUDE TO SEXUAL INTERCOURSE?
I DO NOT RELATE TO THE FOURS YOU SPEAK OF EARLIER IN YOUR ARGUMENT, NOR DO I RELATE TO BOTH MY MOTHER +++AND FATHER+++ WHO CLAIM TO HAVE NO INTEREST IN SEX WHATSOEVER.
I'd love to be able to walk down a street, chatting with a friend, and NOT have my train of thought totally wrecked by a scantily-clad but not-too-pretty woman.
IT'S EASY. BE A GOOD FRIEND, CONCENTRATE ON WHAT YOUR FREIND IS SAYING TO YOU. IT'S NICE. AND WHAT DO YOU LOOK LIKE, BY THE WAY.
> I'd love to be able to meet a gorgeous woman and not be so utterly smitten that I lose my inner cool, thus damaging my chances with her.
HMMMM....
> If all men had women's sexual desire, you'd rarely see today's totally-common sight: Handsome man who has lowered his standards to date an ugly woman who is prepared to put out. Hilary is way prettier but (i'm guessing) less generous than Monica, which explains what happened.
AND BILL'S A REAL PICTURE POSTCARD, AND A MAN OF GREAT INTEGRITY.
> I mean, how often do you see a beautiful woman walking around with an unwealthy ugly man?
I DON'T REALLY THINK ABOUT IT. LOTS OF THINGS MAKE PEOPLE ATTRACTIVE.
> Sexually, the "market" is totally geared towards women, not otherwise.
ARE YOU SURE YOU DIDN'T WRITE THAT DR HOOK SONG?
> I assume you are a feminist, based on the following:
THIS IS NOT DIRECTED AT ME, BUT DIDN'T YOU START THIS DISCUSSION SAYING THAT YOU DON'T THINK FEMINIST IS A DIRTY WORD? I THINK YOU'RE JUST ABOUT TO KILL YOURSELF WITH YOUR OWN SWORD...
> > 99% of men see all women as little prostitutes Yeah (dripping sarcasm) sure we do thus putting them ["them"?, who? women or the men who see all females as hoes?Be clear]under a lot of pressure as to express their sexuality.
> Is it so hard to believe that men are horny not because of societal pressure but a genetically inherited impulse towards procreative activity? You see dogs doing it all the time, and you don't assume it's because of their social upbringing, it's instinct.
AND THE MALE DOGS ARE DOING IT WITH...OTHER MALE DOGS?