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Posted by Brian (long day here) C. on July 03, 2000 at 00:25:36:
In Reply to: Yes, well we're not quite so imbued with psychobabble over here. nt posted by Tiggy on July 02, 2000 at 21:17:41:
> > > STOLEN INNOCENCE...COME ON TIGGY YOU CANT BE THAT DUMB > > OK TIGS IT MEANS SEPARATE AND INDIVIDUAL.....PSYCH TERM... > > > > > Maybe, we internalize after sufficient separation and individuation have occurred.
> > > > > Introjection implies (IMO) an unconscious, intra-pyschic acceptance and
> > > > > incorporation of the "object's" characteristic(s) as one's own. Father is
> > > > > critical of me. I accept the introject "I am defective," and I identify with
> > > > > the object by "being critical" myself. (of myself and others)
> > > > > The secondary gain from this is the avoidance of loss, and separation anxiety.
> > > > > Part of Father lives on in me. Not separating and individuating leaves
> > > > > one with poor boundaries (self versus other) and unresolved grief (we never
> > > > > work through.) Working through the defense requires a transference and the
> > > > > acquistion of one's own values and characteristics. Internalization seems
> > > > > less ominous to me, a more conscious process. Changing religions as an adult
> > > > > might be an example. We let go of the familiy introjected value and accept
> > > > > responsibilty for our spirituality in our own way. (Even that might be more
> > > > > of the same.)
> > > > > In summary: I do not know. Internalization before S&I might lead to Introjection.
> > > > > Internalization after S&I seems extra-psychic. I like the color blue rather
> > > > > than I am the color blue.
> > > > > Snack time!
> > > > >
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