Re: Wasting your reeking breath - save it. We can all do what we please.

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: : : In that case, dear -- : : I made a bet that I can make you say me "dear". You did that always when you : : got provoked - two years ago. : You're just making that up, hot shot. : : You are the only "member" who still is here. : : Usually it takes 6 months to burn out. Are the others "integrated" out of : : here? : No. They just decided they were not Derf. : : Tell me your story, Fred. Is this the only place where you can excel? : Since I love the subject so, maybe I'll choose to excel in it one day. For now, I'm just an amateur, and this is just a hobby. : : Maybe it would be too much for you to get to know some enneagram teachers : : - like you yourself. : I'll go to that stage when I decide it's worth it. For now, the books are enough (but they don't excite me like they used to - like I said, I'm getting there). : : :-- your workshops are scabby, flaky, inconsequential, and too conceited : : :for their own phony-intellectual good... and I take great pride in : : :admitting I have no associations with them. : : Neither have I. I've got some 40 books about the subject. But nothing else. : : Let's take the (twoish) pride together! : You described their behavior as rather rude an intellectually snotty. What's there not to like about that? <g> : : :Good riddance! Eighty percent of the stuff on this board is a waste of : : :time? Funny, I was thinking that the same percentage was honest and : : :searching - the product of inspired persons. : : I agree. The same percentage is HONEST and SEARCHING and the persons : : are O.K. in every sense. But they have no contribution to the enneagram. : : In oral tradition workshops some introspective persons tell the audience : : what is it like to be a certain type: what, how, when and WHY. Everything : : goes backwards here! Some poor innocent beginner asks who she or he is - : : and then you and your collegues give her/him a lecture. "Inspiring" indeed! : : The message board idea does not work properly in this context. : I don't know about you, but I've learned plenty on this board. The revelation via. introspection you apparently seek is here - and that's exactly what I'm looking for, too! : And I've never outrightly told anyone what their type is (have I come close? I dunno). Basically, I've just shared what I knew about people as they relate to this system, and experienced tremendous growth in this area of understanding. My goal is to understand human nature, not to make a (choose one: big shot, teacher, stand-up comedian) out of myself. : : :Why on Earth are you "still present?" : : I gave you something to grip! : : To answer your question, I'm exercising my english. It's in a poor state : : and it needs practising. The story is longer, but I don't want to bore you. : : I respect you and others, but "kisses and love" style is not for me. : : You and many others are working anonymously - so you want to be the : : target. Those who have a REAL e-mail address with their postings : : are REAL personalities. Others are just "no ones" and deserve a few : : tackles, if possible. : Oh, I used to leave my e-mail address all right. But only once in a great while did I get any e-mail from anyone here. Just 20 spams every day from adversiters who use "e-mail web search" scripts. So I stopped. Is that a satisfactory justification? : : Just a couple a weeks ago it was published a study which revealed that : : WWW makes the surfers depressed. No wonder, if you are looking support : : without name and identity. : I spend less than an hour a day doing this WWW stuff. I check this page and a few others of my interest, but that's all. Is that hard to believe? You thought I practically lived on the web, didn't you? This is probably the only page I've consistently visited for so long, besides news sites. In a way, it's a kind of news site - news about introspection and soul searching, courtesy of a few interested parties. : : The "oral tradition and wasting time" is not my idea. I have copied it, : : because it makes sense to me. : I don't really know what the "oral tradition" is all about. But maybe I'll get into that. And maybe we'll meet there, and get into a few delicious arguments. Until then.... : : That's it. Thanks for your respond. : Ditto. : : Off-Liner (visitor) : -You know who (I will never integrate out of this).

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