Posted by Andy on August 14, 1998 at 08:38:37:
In Reply to: Re: Counterphobics posted by Sol on August 13, 1998 at 11:33:21:
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: : But the way you have presented her I can't
: : believe she’s an ENFJ. she must be an SJ, meaning ESFJ since you think she's extroverted.
: Wow, I think she is indeed an ESFJ, which makes more sense for a probable 6. I had only thought ENFJ because she had said she was ENTP, and T and P were obviously wrong, but I hadn't even thought about the S/N dichotomy and didn't believe she'd miss 3 out of 4. Also, she often says things that an N might say. But I just checked an M-B reference to refresh my understanding of S/N, and her core actions are certainly S. She truly fits the nurturing, duty-minded profile of ESFJs. (Plus, I have often said she is my exact opposite--how could I have missed that?)
: I think she just WANTS to be N (and T, and P), same way she WANTS to be a 9. This is interesting to me because her sidekick at work seems to be INFX and fits the textbook profile of the 9. And Boss reveres this other person. It's like she's figured out which traits she values and says she's that type, even if she doesn't have those values herself. Or she convinces herself she does. I think the ENTP type is great, too, but that doesn't make me an extrovert.
I think it sounds strange that she should "act" like an N, I can't believe that.
Just as I can sound like an ESFJ in real life, I am sure she can seem like
an ENTP, whitout pretending( but she's your shadow, so you are likely
to project evil...) She could be an ESFJ-ENFP. Just as you can be an INTP-ISTJ That's really quite possible.
It's to easy to limit people down to one MBTI type, I think we share atleast two.
That she "want's" to be a 9 sounds more like a 2 thing. I think sixes are more
subject to wanting to be ones, eight's or fours.
I would think 2-s are the ones that are most different from five’s.
If she's an ESFJ she got all the same functions as an ENTP just in a different
order, so it's really not so strange she could do this confusion.
I think the author of the types have made the N types to favored, and
the way they are described they might seem better than the S's, that's to bad...
So if the ENTP type description had been less "favored" and the ESFJ more
I think we wouldn't been having this discussion