Re: Counterphobics

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Posted by Andy on August 17, 1998 at 17:56:55:

In Reply to: Re: Counterphobics posted by Sol on August 17, 1998 at 11:34:24:

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: : I think it sounds strange that she should "act" like an N, I can't believe that.

: Why not? To her, the S trait sounds stodgy, and she's embarrassed about being that way. See your comment at the bottom.

This is what I have difficulties with. Why should not an S
"like" the S trait's most and N likes the N trait's ?
I mean if I and a other N are having a off groundlevel discussion the
S'ss seem's to back off more or less in protest. Meaning they actually
don't like this, but they might like it better on the "paper".
Well, anyway...This is something to study.

But
of course I see how the N trait's could be favored by bouth, but somehow
I belive an S would prefer the S trait's.
:
: : Just as I can sound like an ESFJ in real life, I am sure she can seem like
: : an ENTP, whitout pretending( but she's your shadow, so you are likely
: : to project evil...)

: I don't think she's pretending at all. I think she's convinced herself and then cultivates those traits.
Well, that's what I call pretending. You know, the best seller is the one
who belives his own shit.

: :She could be an ESFJ-ENFP. Just as you can be an INTP-ISTJ That's :really quite possible.

: Umm, don't think so.

I see how you don't, but what I mean is that if you take the test you may
score as one type, and mostly fit into that type description to, but
you will find other description that also fit's more or less. So what
I mean is not you are two types, but that you, just as with the enneagram
will find that you got trait's from more than one description's.

And as an INTP ,for example, I would guess you could find a other
description than the INTP, you atleast was a bit "home" in.

: : It's to easy to limit people down to one MBTI type, I think we share atleast two.

: That makes no sense to me. Maybe if you're talking about the Enneagram--people having more than one basic fear/motivation, which also it fits with how people test and behave. But MBTI is exclusive by its very structure.

And I don't think it's possible to use so "boxed" labels as the MBTI.

Of course you could call yourself an INTP and that would be the one
that really describes you most, but that doesn't mean you would not
fit a bit into other description's. Meaning you could use INTP- XXXX

See ?

There is really no need for making this, but for better presision
why not ?

: : I think the author of the types have made the N types to favored, and
: : the way they are described they might seem better than the S's, that's to bad...

: Yes, that's probably the issue.

If the N descriptions was made by sensors and the S descriptions by
N-s, I would like to see how things got.

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: : : : : I think it sounds strange that she should "act" like an N, I can't believe that. : : Why not? To her, the S trait sounds stodgy, and she's embarrassed about being that way. See your comment at the bottom. : : This is what I have difficulties with. Why should not an S : "like" the S trait's most and N likes the N trait's ? : I mean if I and a other N are having a off groundlevel discussion the : S'ss seem's to back off more or less in protest. Meaning they actually : don't like this, but they might like it better on the "paper". : Well, anyway...This is something to study. : But : of course I see how the N trait's could be favored by bouth, but somehow : I belive an S would prefer the S trait's. : : : : : Just as I can sound like an ESFJ in real life, I am sure she can seem like : : : an ENTP, whitout pretending( but she's your shadow, so you are likely : : : to project evil...) : : I don't think she's pretending at all. I think she's convinced herself and then cultivates those traits. : Well, that's what I call pretending. You know, the best seller is the one : who belives his own shit. : : :She could be an ESFJ-ENFP. Just as you can be an INTP-ISTJ That's :really quite possible. : : Umm, don't think so. : I see how you don't, but what I mean is that if you take the test you may : score as one type, and mostly fit into that type description to, but : you will find other description that also fit's more or less. So what : I mean is not you are two types, but that you, just as with the enneagram : will find that you got trait's from more than one description's. : And as an INTP ,for example, I would guess you could find a other : description than the INTP, you atleast was a bit "home" in. : : : It's to easy to limit people down to one MBTI type, I think we share atleast two. : : That makes no sense to me. Maybe if you're talking about the Enneagram--people having more than one basic fear/motivation, which also it fits with how people test and behave. But MBTI is exclusive by its very structure. : And I don't think it's possible to use so "boxed" labels as the MBTI. : Of course you could call yourself an INTP and that would be the one : that really describes you most, but that doesn't mean you would not : fit a bit into other description's. Meaning you could use INTP- XXXX : See ? : There is really no need for making this, but for better presision : why not ? : : : : I think the author of the types have made the N types to favored, and : : : the way they are described they might seem better than the S's, that's to bad... : : Yes, that's probably the issue. : If the N descriptions was made by sensors and the S descriptions by : N-s, I would like to see how things got.

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