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Enneagram Main Board Archive Re: Telling Fives from EightsPosted by Dave on August 19, 1998 at 19:04:34: In Reply to: Telling Fives from Eights posted by Geenius at Wrok on August 19, 1998 at 09:59:59:
Excellent analysis of the mistypings of 5 and 8! Well done! To add to your fine work: 5's appear as 8's when their physical and vocal stature is powerfull. 5's may be aggressive in their dealings with others, but it's not to intimdate or control another like an 8 might. Rather their focus is on getting a desired outcome without emotional or relational involvement, and/or limited interpersonal skills. There are "quiet 8's" who are introverted and don't seek out interpersonal conflict, but they do like to challenge themselves. Their relationships with most are minimal, like 5's. 8's believe that power leads to knowledge. They do first, learn second. 5's tend to act as if less is more with the material world, though they can be ambitious and accumulate great wealth (ie. Warren Buffet, Bill Gates), but that wealth frees them from needing anything. 8's tend to act as if less is more in the intellectual world, accumulating enough knowledge to achieve their goals and results without getting bogged down in paralysis by analysis. 5's with a strong connection to their 8 point will assert themselves even at average levels of development. 5's with a strong 6 wing who are counterphobic often attack rather withdraw under stress, but think they should be withdrawing while doing so. Both will have good social skills. 8's with a strong connection to their 2 point at average levels of development will intefere in others lives in order to help them. This isn't common of 5's at all.
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