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Posted by JWS on September 30, 1998 at 01:03:21:

In Reply to: Re: Riso's Star Personality posted by Perciever on September 28, 1998 at 15:09:22:

: : I am interested in knowing if anyone has a spouse who is a 3wing2 (3w2), aka, Riso's, "The Star," in his latest book and the "Performer" or "Motivator" in his 1987 publication? Seeking experiences with those involved with a 3w2 who were/are in their lower "level of continum."
: : Seeking their support or a support group for help!
: : JWS

: A next door family in my neighborhood consists of a 7w6 man, his 3w2 wife and three kids. They have been married since 18 years old, but the woman is really freaking out lately. You can hear her shouting top volume all day long.
: She is apparently under a lot of stress running a pre-school, raising 3 kids and having many church obligations.
: When I talk to the couple personally they are very cordial and helpful. It seems their problems are taken out inside the family. Of course this is not uncommon! Unfortunaltely. A type having the 2 as wing or primary can be horrendous to deal with in the lower levels. I personally avoid
: unhealthy 2's unless they have power over me. If thats the case then I just give them what they want. If what they want is unreasonable then I fight back. What else is there??
: That probably didnt help much. Good luck.

Dear Perceiver,
Thank you for contribution. Let's see if we can generate additional input on this subject.

Wasn't "OJ" a 3w2? Wasn't he also STRESSED!! Can you think of other examples? Samuel BUNDY?? I thought Threes usually revert to manipulative means rather than to hysteria and rage. Don't they disassociate under stress in effect creating added defense mechanisms to thwart intense repressed/unconscious emotional trauma with potential MPD manifestations. As the three follows "disintegration (d)" the conscious state, while endeavoring to control loses, controls and alters by "switching" either through disassociative or nondisassociative means, e.g., Clinton(?).

Now, what about a disintegrating three with a high thrust at six? A highly emotional situation? You bet.

What can the spouse do other than follow my former mentor, Scot Peck's, "People of the Lie" crap or revisit Whitfield's book, "Boundaries," and grieve his inverted bell curve illustration depicting dysfunctional behavior...and wait until the 3w2's "living process" bottoms-out reducing one to psychopatheticness... before new explorations toward spirtuality?

Who else can see the depth of the (d)threes problem except the spouse, the only one they will let close enough to occasionally reveal themselves too. That occasional glimpse of "honesty," only too quickly to wither and become the shadow of fear, again.

Others see the "motivator," the "achiever," the "Super Hero!" The spouse, the "Victim," the systems, "scapecoat?" In the eyes of society, their are no dysfunctional, disintegrating threes! Why? Because, they mirror us, our culture, our society. It is their image, their facade that we idolize. Threes...hope & virtue? Spouses...hang-on for dear life!!

Ringer writes, "...sustenance of a positive mental attitude with the assumption of a negative result..." In the case of a (d) three, I think not.

Your thoughts?

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Re: Riso's Star Personality Perciever 14:06:27 9/30/98 (2)
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Re: Riso's Star Personality Geenius at Wrok 11:19:48 9/30/98 (2)
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Re: Riso's Star Personality Hal 09:54:16 9/30/98 (3)
- Re: Riso's Star Personality JWS 01:48:51 10/04/98 (2)
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: : : I am interested in knowing if anyone has a spouse who is a 3wing2 (3w2), aka, Riso's, "The Star," in his latest book and the "Performer" or "Motivator" in his 1987 publication? Seeking experiences with those involved with a 3w2 who were/are in their lower "level of continum." : : : Seeking their support or a support group for help! : : : JWS : : A next door family in my neighborhood consists of a 7w6 man, his 3w2 wife and three kids. They have been married since 18 years old, but the woman is really freaking out lately. You can hear her shouting top volume all day long. : : She is apparently under a lot of stress running a pre-school, raising 3 kids and having many church obligations. : : When I talk to the couple personally they are very cordial and helpful. It seems their problems are taken out inside the family. Of course this is not uncommon! Unfortunaltely. A type having the 2 as wing or primary can be horrendous to deal with in the lower levels. I personally avoid : : unhealthy 2's unless they have power over me. If thats the case then I just give them what they want. If what they want is unreasonable then I fight back. What else is there?? : : That probably didnt help much. Good luck. : Dear Perceiver, : Thank you for contribution. Let's see if we can generate additional input on this subject. : Wasn't "OJ" a 3w2? Wasn't he also STRESSED!! Can you think of other examples? Samuel BUNDY?? I thought Threes usually revert to manipulative means rather than to hysteria and rage. Don't they disassociate under stress in effect creating added defense mechanisms to thwart intense repressed/unconscious emotional trauma with potential MPD manifestations. As the three follows "disintegration (d)" the conscious state, while endeavoring to control loses, controls and alters by "switching" either through disassociative or nondisassociative means, e.g., Clinton(?). : Now, what about a disintegrating three with a high thrust at six? A highly emotional situation? You bet. : What can the spouse do other than follow my former mentor, Scot Peck's, "People of the Lie" crap or revisit Whitfield's book, "Boundaries," and grieve his inverted bell curve illustration depicting dysfunctional behavior...and wait until the 3w2's "living process" bottoms-out reducing one to psychopatheticness... before new explorations toward spirtuality? : Who else can see the depth of the (d)threes problem except the spouse, the only one they will let close enough to occasionally reveal themselves too. That occasional glimpse of "honesty," only too quickly to wither and become the shadow of fear, again. : Others see the "motivator," the "achiever," the "Super Hero!" The spouse, the "Victim," the systems, "scapecoat?" In the eyes of society, their are no dysfunctional, disintegrating threes! Why? Because, they mirror us, our culture, our society. It is their image, their facade that we idolize. Threes...hope & virtue? Spouses...hang-on for dear life!! : Ringer writes, "...sustenance of a positive mental attitude with the assumption of a negative result..." In the case of a (d) three, I think not. : Your thoughts? :

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