Re: Thoughtful and concise...

Posted by Brian C. on October 02, 1998 at 01:02:49:

In Reply to: Re: Thoughtful and concise... posted by Hal on October 01, 1998 at 10:00:18:

wow, there is a lot to digest, and I was not asked for an opinion. My
contribution: about fours; if another type gets respectfully close to a four
they will experience life on a emotional level of intensity previously
unimaginable. For some this may seem theatrical, for others it is the
difference between being asleep and being alive. Fours arouse passion.
That is their gift. Going to one means using the gift responsibly, not
seductively nor manipulatively. i.e., go to 1 not 2. Contentment with
possibilities, but determination to improve for the benefit of others.

About Sevens: motivation seems to me to be about acceptance. That's were the
con comes in. Exuding confident optimism and seeking acceptance of a plan
(fantasy,) 7s take us in at our own request. They feel confused when confronted
because it was obvious to them that we feared risk. The 7 took the chance
for us. We got what we wanted (no risk,) now we complain. Going to 5 implies
seeing the gift (persusive seduction) and using it responsibly. This means
disclaimers. I have a DREAM. I have a PLAN. It will take real WORK (8.)
This is internal acceptance for a 7 instead of external acceptance. (The
7 buys into it and acts upon it, rather than some 'other' buys into it and
goes broke acting upon it. ( as an aside, this is why some of us, in the
minority, see 7 as dependent. An external is needed to "buy' into acceptance
until 7 goes to 5, then 8, .... but I digress.) Gluttony refers to the
insatiable aspect of 7 seeking external acceptance. Nothing will suffice.
It is a spiritual (internal) issue and therefore painful. Paradox.

Pedantry: The centers are variously described as head, heart, gut or
thinking, feeling, being, or cognition, emotion, conation, or doing,
emoting, viscerating. Just as 4 equates feeling with being, so can a
'head type' equate doing with being. That is the fixation. And to be
fair, a gut type can confuse 'being' with 'living.' we all know that life
calls upon all resources, not just our favorite. Now, where did I put my
hammer. I see a nail over there, and I just want to hammer it!

Follow Ups:

• Re: Thoughtful and concise... Christy 16:28:21 10/02/98 (7)
  • Re: There is the dark-side to SEVEN Kronus 22:48:45 10/03/98 (6)
    • Re: There is the dark-side to SEVEN Hal 10:20:46 10/05/98 (0)
    • Re: There is the dark-side to SEVEN Christy 09:54:39 10/05/98 (4)
      • No, there was no easy time; yes I am a brat!!! Kronus 00:12:56 10/06/98 (3)
        • Re: No, there was no easy time; yes I am a brat!!! Geenius at Wrok 10:28:34 10/06/98 (2)
          • Re: No, there was no easy time; yes I am a brat!!! Christy 11:50:27 10/06/98 (1)
            • Re: So perhaps the crucible is different? Kronus 19:24:31 10/06/98 (0)

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