Posted by JWS on October 04, 1998 at 01:48:51:
In Reply to: Re: Riso's Star Personality posted by Hal on September 30, 1998 at 09:54:16:
Hal,
Yes, many hours and much energy has been spent in research, study and personal meditative work. I decided to venture into the world of other enneagram explorers to seek support and hopeful wisdom. Experience+++knowledge+++=Wisdom? Anothers experience is of high value to one without it. Ah, and so, too, knowledge!
I am seeking people who may have had similar experiences or knowledge relating to at least my original concerns.
On the matter of your possible "3" E-type brother I am sensitive to what you have written (I have a strong four connected to my core five). I have also shared many similar experiences you described. I have an "average 6/5 (Riso-Hudson)" brother who although is a certifiable genius is, nevertheless, into his "stuff" that was passed down from many generations (I checked). I won't get into his past experiences other than to say that John Steinbeck could have made money on his story. He survived his earlier life ordeal an became a lawyer (new ordeals, right?) and substitutes for other babtist ministers at the pulpit. He ran a close U.S. Congressional race and is determine to win next time (no he's not Chuck Colson). Still...I can easily trigger his "stuff", unintentionally (most of the time), and his Jyekll/Hyde personality will emerge. A six's rage is unique. As you may have experienced, it can be very damaging to anyone involved. It is explosive and, too often, dangerous to be around!
I have since become more aware of scenes which may precipitate these espisodes. It most usually evolves from something of our past. Most likely something experienced during our early childhood tenure but could also have been something an ancestor experienced; kepted family "secret(s)" but nevertheless, passed on, usually unconsciously. Something repressed, something unconscious, but most definitely something which needs to be "grieved."
We continue to carry the burdens of our parents and ancestors until we become aware that they are a part of our lifes. We shall continue to blame, shame and create guilt when we know no other alternative.
It is my believe that our sibs mirror our inner pain, the "stuff" of our ancestors past, more than our parents. Why? Because we tend to let our boundaries collapse more with sibs than parents, we are left more vulnerable to exposed or unconscious feelings, and therefore more prone to spite and misdirected and misunderstood anger. Aren't we projecting the past in these circumstances. We certainly project ourselves. We lose ourselves to some external energy...
I am more able to separate from my own past suffering acquired through heritage, environmental & learned behavior. I can better detach from my own "stuff" as well as the others pain, their self-denial, or their burdens. I can make better choices instead of repeating old recycled history.
Self-discovery has rescued me from that external realm of pain and suffering with an intent to reconnect my whole-being to a more natural reality (alot of outdoor activity). A "lost soul" finding solace and rebirth. A process requiring my continual and direct involvement. It has been a journey of discovery often requiring a painful but ultimately cleansing exploration.
I empathize with those who are faced with painful experiences on a continual basis. Its presence still does exist within and around me but has lessen substantially. Sometimes, I choose to move through it while other times away from it, but I'm more aware of it than while in "denial" or it. This work has taken me very far from where I first began. Choices made, lessons learn, and many behaviors changed.
My wife is indeed a three, and we have shared the experience of the depths of lower level stress for this type. It has been a living nightmare. The awakening result, however, has given us both a gift; a developing consciousness. We have chosen new priorities and have made new commitments better understood. We now take more responsibilty for our actions and their consequences. One of our highest priorities is to become better at self-parenting to help our children interpret their world in healthier ways then we experienced in our childhood.
It is very late. I have taken more time with this message then originally expected. It is obviously an important one for me. Thank you for letting me share it with you.
John
John