Posted by Christy on October 23, 1998 at 10:00:18:
In Reply to: Re: Hell (endothermic or exothermic)? posted by Kronus on October 23, 1998 at 09:04:25:
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: : In a recent conversation with an enneagram literate consultant, we talked about some dilemmas of type that lead to living in a personal hell. The example we used was type 6.
: : 6's often get caught in a trap of immobility and indecision because they won't act until they get a high degree of certainty. They wait until they perfect their ideas and actions so as to avoid criticism and possible attack when they do engage the world.
: *******How does this differ from the immobility of a FOUR?
It doesn't by much...................., Christy
: : The trap is the feeling of needing certainty and the desire for perfectionism is an emotional one, and too often a 6 will try to solve that through analytical means. But, it doesn't work.
: *******Is not immobility or lack of action dibilitating regardless of the underlying emotional cause (FOUR or SIX)?
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: : Hell for the 6 is the fixation on eternal questioning, such as, "But, what if.......?", and "But, what about.......?", "But, ....?", etc.. These questions can go on endlessly, upsetting any degree of certainty the 6 may feel. Meanwhile the 6 stays locked in immobilty due to doubt and uncertainty.
: ********Try living with the endless questioning of a FOUR's "what ifs"! (This SEVEN finds it irritating as hell, so to speak.)
Boy this sounds like my husband - he and I go around and around on this issue - I see everything that can go wrong - he doesn't worry about it until it happens and it smacks him in the face. I think that somewhere in between is a good place if we could ever find it.- Christy
: : Some solutions:
: : Analysis is fine, as long as it is done while in motion for the 6.
: : Relief from the compulsion comes from going to 9 and trusting that the natural flow of things, God, principles, etc. will bring things to positive fruition.
: ******That is the release of the Wu, letting Jesus into your life, finidng God, surrendering, or what ever religious experience you achieve, no?
: : Realization that the 6 is creating the doubt, and start to doubt the neccessity of doubting.
: ***There is a "Catch 22" in here somewhere.
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: : Has anyone else come across what would be the equivilent of a living hell or deep dilemma for any other type?
: ******You mean other than twent-five years of a SEVEN marriage to a FOUR... only kidding dear!
: : Care to add anything to the above on 6ishness?
: Nah!
: : -Dave
: Kronus