Posted by KJ Always (209.214.12.10) on April 28, 2002 at 01:05:55:
In Reply to: And after you've mulled my last post over... posted by Bartholomew (63.214.84.77) on April 27, 2002 at 12:53:13:
It is easy to mistype 7 and 2 because they are both in the Positive Outlook Triadic group!
From my experience with the Enneagram and people, I discovered that they are actually connected to one another in some kind of way. Like the 7 and 2 are both in the Positive Outlook Group. People are similar and opposite simultanteously. If you disagree with me, it is okay because we all have a right to our own perceptions and can't truly control the thoughts of others, even though we may try to, sometimes. ha, ha, ha.
I agree with you on their oppositions, but I am going to give you an example of their similarities too. We all have the yin-yang and the Oneness in our connection from what I can see. I agree 5 & 1 are similar, but they are also opposite by 5 is introverted thinking (they think about their views and ideology) and 1 are extroverted thinking (they voice their views and ideology). 7 & 2 are very similar, but also opposites. 2 are primarily emotional and more into others, while 7 are primarily thinking and more into themselves.
I agree 4 and 8 are opposites, but they are both similar by being in the Reactionary Triad wanting intense responses from their mates. And 3 and 9 can be similar as far as they both are on the equilateral triangle prefering to repress their prefered center. They both don't openly show their negative emotions outwardly. You can compare 6 with others too because 6 are opposite and similar to the others, but they are also opposite and similar within their ownselves. Ha, ha, ha. I told my best friend who is a wonderful 6w7 that she is a Yin-Yang. I feel bad for her fearfulness. It has to be tornment! I remember when I was a little girl how tornmented I felt living in fear whenever I heard a loud motor cycle because I was afraid it was my bully cousin coming over to terrorize us again.
I see, we are thinking alone the same lines. I am impressed with your knowledge Bartholomew! I hope I helped figure out the situation between 4 & 8 both in the Reactionary Triad according to Riso. 3 and 9 are both on the equilateral triangle (so is 6), which means that they idealize their traid inside and outwardly. Six don't really need anybody to be compared to since they are their own Yin-Yang. Ha, ha, ha.
KJ Always
> The type 6 Enneagram???
> Type 6's issue is trust/distrust--which is, as I've explained, closely related to comfort/discomfort, relaxation/tension, acceptance/nonacceptance, belief/nonbelief, etc.
> I've already linked types 5 and type 1, under the "belief/nonbelief" part of it. Type 5 tries to decide what to believe, and type 1 takes what it's decided to believe in, and believes in it strongly.
> Type 5 is 1 down from 6, and type 1 is 4 down from type 5. Let's go in the reverse direction. We get type 7 is 1 up from 6, and type 2 is 4 up from 7. Haven't I heard some stuff about a strong 7-2 connection, and how it's easy to mistype 7's as 2's and vice versa?
> We're left with types 3, 4, 8, and 9. The 4 and 8 rings a bell, does it not? They're practically opposites, as people have mentioned on these boards a few times. Although I haven't heard it mentioned on these boards, 3 and 9 are also practically opposites, the peace-loving "My efforts won't make a difference in the world" type and the go-getter high achiever.
> And if you reflect 4 over a line drawn through type 6 and the center of the Enneagram, you get type 8. If you reflect type 3 over that line, you get type 9.
> The connections are symmetrical over the line drawn through type 6 and the center of the circle. The 5-1 and 7-2 are connections of similarity, and the 4-8 and 3-9 are connections of opposition. And type 6 stands alone.
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> Now, we know that types 5 and 1 are similar because of their stances on the belief issue. How are 7 and 2 related, thinking along the same lines? After that, 4-8 and 3-9 have to be figured out. Any ideas?