do you believe that about type 4?

Posted by Diarm (194.125.207.223) on April 30, 2002 at 11:29:39:

In Reply to: These are always interesting posted by Emily (68.13.146.250) on April 30, 2002 at 00:45:06:

Are you sure it applies here?

I'm not sure negative reinforcement of functionality is the key to 4ness. I don't think fours are really anti-happiness or anti-functionality, just as a starving person isn't anti-food.

> Type Four: It's not ok to be too functional or too happy.
> Type Five: It's not ok to be comfortable in the world.
> Type Six: It's not ok to trust yourself.
> Type Seven: It's not ok to depend on anyone for anything.
> Type Eight: It's not ok to be vulnerable or to trust anyone.
> Type Nine: It's not ok to assert yourself.

> And then there are the Lost Childhood Messages for each type, that we do not hear as children, that Riso thinks becomes the central issue in our lives. We want to hear these things more than anything else. When someone we know says our particular message, either directly or indirectly, we feel very close to them but don't know why.

> Lost Childhood Messages

> Type One: You are good.
> Type Two: You are wanted.
> Type Three: You are loved for yourself.
> Type Four: You are seen for who you are.
> Type Five: Your needs are not a problem.
> Type Six: You are safe.
> Type Seven: You will be taken care of.
> Type Eight: You will not be betrayed.
> Type Nine: Your presence matters.

> -Emily

Follow Ups:

• Re: do you believe that about type 4? Megan (67.192.46.41) 14:03:06 05/10/02 (0)
• I think the writer thought that "It's not OK to..." motif was really keen, and he shoehorned it in to type 4, even though it's not true for 4s *text* Diarm (194.125.148.215) 06:09:51 05/01/02 (0)
• I don't think that's what I heard from my family at all. nt Tiggy (195.93.34.189) 20:02:21 04/30/02 (0)
• starving... isaac (149.152.188.55) 13:08:16 04/30/02 (2)
  • Maybe the food isn't to their taste and would not satisfy them. nt Tiggy (195.93.34.189) 20:04:10 04/30/02 (1)
    • way to stretch a metaphor ! :) :) nt isaac (149.152.189.38) 15:49:41 05/01/02 (0)
• Re: do you believe that about type 4? Emily (204.26.108.199) 12:07:42 04/30/02 (4)
  • My parents prefer people to be happy so they wouldn't say that. nt Tiggy - the serious child. (195.93.34.189) 20:05:40 04/30/02 (2)
    • Well you wouldn't have heard it directly. They're unconscious messages. Emily [nt] (68.13.146.250) 00:04:27 05/01/02 (1)
      • They disapproved of me, but partly of me NOT being happy! nt Tiggy (195.93.49.158) 19:30:08 05/01/02 (0)
  • Oops Emily (68.13.146.250) 17:04:31 04/30/02 (0)

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