Riso wrote these, not me.

Posted by Emily [nt] (68.13.146.250) on May 01, 2002 at 00:03:46:

In Reply to: Some of these... posted by Bartholomew (63.214.83.187) on April 30, 2002 at 20:57:55:

> > Riso says that our Unconscious Childhood Message is what we percieved from our parents growing up.

> > Unconscious Childhood Messages

> > Type One: It's not ok to make mistakes.
> > Type Two: It's not ok to have your own needs.
> > Type Three: It's not ok to have your own feelings and identity.
> > Type Four: It's not ok to be too functional or too happy.

> TOO functional or TOO happy? How come you don't say that type one's message is to make TOO MANY mistakes, or that type two's message is to have TOO MANY of one's own needs?

> "It's not ok to be too functional or too happy" sounds a lot better than "it's not ok to be functional or happy."

> I think your fourish egotism is getting in the way. There's no other reason you would make the type 4 message sound less bad than the messages of the other types by putting in moderating words like "too." Or if that was quoted directly from Riso, then HIS fourish egotism was getting in the way.

> > Type Five: It's not ok to be comfortable in the world.

> That's the type 6 message. Discomfort = mistrust of environment or self, remember?

> > Type Six: It's not ok to trust yourself.

> The type 6 message is that it's not ok to trust yourself OR your environment. 6's when counterphobic trust themselves a lot. They trust their ability to fight.

> > Type Seven: It's not ok to depend on anyone for anything.

> Also type 6. That's synonymous with "It's not ok to trust anyone."

> > Type Eight: It's not ok to be vulnerable or to trust anyone.

> The type 8 message is that it's not ok to be vulnerable. Mistrusting people is part of type 6.

> > Type Nine: It's not ok to assert yourself.

> > And then there are the Lost Childhood Messages for each type, that we do not hear as children, that Riso thinks becomes the central issue in our lives. We want to hear these things more than anything else. When someone we know says our particular message, either directly or indirectly, we feel very close to them but don't know why.

> > Lost Childhood Messages

> > Type One: You are good.
> > Type Two: You are wanted.
> > Type Three: You are loved for yourself.
> > Type Four: You are seen for who you are.
> > Type Five: Your needs are not a problem.
> > Type Six: You are safe.
> > Type Seven: You will be taken care of.

> How is this different from the type five lost childhood message?

> > Type Eight: You will not be betrayed.

> six six six six six six.

> > Type Nine: Your presence matters.

Follow Ups:

• Are you saying that you disagree with Riso? If you agree with him, the statements that I'm opposing are yours also. (nt) Bartholomew (63.214.82.172) 17:18:22 05/01/02 (0)
• Re: Riso wrote these, not me. KJ Always (209.215.55.172) 08:28:01 05/01/02 (7)
  • interesting Bartholomew (63.214.82.172) 18:54:27 05/01/02 (6)
    • Re: Why the double standards? KJ Always (209.215.55.199) 01:10:03 05/04/02 (5)
      • Please answer the question Bartholomew (63.214.122.196) 11:41:33 05/04/02 (4)
        • I think we should strive for harmony and peace as we respect one another's individuality and differences. KJ Always (209.214.15.59) 17:17:57 05/04/02 (3)
          • So you're saying I should give up on getting an answer to my question? Bartholomew (63.214.84.3) 18:50:25 05/04/02 (2)
            • I am saying that everybody deserve equal respect on this website and they are not inferior to you and your intellect, Bartholomew. It won't hurt your to be kind to others. KJ Always (216.76.208.188) 03:14:05 05/06/02 (1)
              • I'm going to translate what you say into blunt terms. Bartholomew (63.214.100.251) 17:33:02 05/09/02 (0)

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