Posted by KJ Always (209.214.15.59) on May 04, 2002 at 18:48:36:
In Reply to: It's that a hat full of them is funnier. [nt] posted by Mikko (193.234.247.51) on April 30, 2002 at 07:16:10:
> > > > You are only 17! Wow! I am impressed! You are full of knowledge! I may not agree and see everything eye to eye with you, but I can appreciate your knowledge and perceptions.
> > > > You are a 6w5, please join my group because I have someone who went through a sufi workshop of the Enneagram that is a 6w5, so he claims. He is looking for a 6w5 to discuss the type with. I thought you were older than that! Wow! I bet you have a brilliant mind like my best friend (6w7)! Since she is a 6w7, she doesn't care about honors anymore and trying to get into Ivy League schools because it would just stress her out! She is gifted in her intellect, but she gave up those programs and just want to live a normal life now. How about you?
> > > > That explains how you see the Enneagram from a "trusting issues" perspective. Wow! You are an authority on that subject, so you can easily look at things in that manner, but I will have a difficult time to view things that way. I don't disagree that each have a trust issue, but I believe we look at the Enneagram from our own individuality, just like the four writers of the Gospels of the New Testament. Like the artists who paints and draws the same object from how they view the subject. You would be able to see things through the lens of "Trust Issues" of each types and make it clear for us to see too.
> > > > I have learned when people put up their guards to protect themselves from being hurt, they also protect themselves from being loved. I have learned that when you set boudaries, you don't have to be so concerned about protecting yourself. When people let down their guards and just set boundaries, they are more free to love and be loved without issues of trust and distrust.
> > > > My wonderful 6w7 best friend. I think she will always to some degree be guarded because she is a 6. Even though she is healthy and overcame her self-defeating way of life, she still struggles over trusting strangers and being in places that looks suspicious. She does both, set boundaries and keep her guards up where she don't know her boundaries. Fear and doubt is useful for her, when it would be a negative thing for the rest of the Enneatype. Interesing, huh?
> > > > I don't disagree with your opinion about 9 because that is true also. Sometimes, conflicts can piss off a 9 if they continue to bring chaos around a 9 disturbing their peace!!! Ha, ha, ha.
> > > > KJ Always
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> > > > > > Hi Bartholomew and other Enneagram Enthusiasts! I think the answer to that is Enneatype 9, atleast, outwardly they are the most relaxed socially. Do you agree?
> > > > > Sort of. In my opinion, nines have a lot of repressed anxiety. Conflict really worries them. I think it's kind of a toss-up between nines and twos.
> > > > > > I think people who are relaxed and trusting, I am sure some of them are aware enough to know when it is time to set boundaries, which is used in place of putting up your guards. Balanced or healthy Trusting people have a good sense of boundaries, wouldn't you agree? What do you think? What type are you, Bartholomew? You are a fascinating person. Ha, ha, ha.
> > > > > No, people who trust completely have no sense of boundaries. They're total wrecks, subject to whatever comes their way. A "boundary" IS a distrust; it IS a "putting up of one's guard." Of course, people who distrust completely are also total wrecks, because they distrust what might help them.
> > > > > I'm a 17-year-old 6w5.