Posted by Flower Pagan (68.35.113.192) on January 28, 2003 at 02:31:05:
In Reply to: Re: This MBTI thing has over looked me and left me out! posted by P (65.58.178.95) on January 27, 2003 at 15:39:55:
> > > > > You're a 6w5 and an INTJ.
> > This is what Pork wrote to Perceiver from another post below about being normal. I guess, P has a preferance of seeing himself as normal.
> ***Aside from losing my temper in flame wars here on occaision which gives you motivation to try and shoot my character in defense and competition I know I am completely normal.
FP: I don't hold grudges, though I don't want to participate in flame wars since it does not have any practical results that will benefit neither one of us. I don't feel a need to indulge in competition and defense over silly online message board games. Well, I was calling myself trying to join in the fun and go with the flow for a change, but I realized it was not fun after all. Too much negativity for me. I have never been much of a game player for most of my life. Life is too short to allow anger over petty things get to you like that. This is only a message board of faceless strangers and potential friendships. It scares me to see people get all worked up over small things in fear they will end up with a heart attack or a stroke from the stress that anger causes. It is not worth it! I was not mad at you, but I just did not want to play anymore. I was just trying to play the game that you guys was playing and got a little too carried away with it. I am sorry for offending you in the process. I am not used to it and not really my thing, but I respect you guys rights to play these flame war games. I, sometimes, wonder do any of you guys actually take these wars seriously because it sometimes look real.
FP: That is good that you feel completely normal. I always have been unique and different. I always marched to the beat of a different drummer, which is why I can relate to Henry David Thoreau's words. I tried to be normal, according to the average person, but I find that it is too hard to be like everybody else because I am not like everybody else from what I have been told. I always have been told that I am very unique, different, unusual or eccentric. Of course, I always have been told that I am funny, nice and talented also. I am just going to be myself, which is a lot less work then trying to be something that I am not. I found a lot of so called "normal" people seem to show their true selves away from the public eyes. A lot of people hide their individuality in fear of being judged by others if they don't appear as normal.
FP: P, what does it feel like to be normal and ordinary? Do you feel like you belong and is just like everybody else? Normal people, like my neighbors think I am strange because I prefer to go to places to talk about deep interesting topics, instead of going to clubs, drink and talk about nothing. Being normal sounds so empty and boring to me, but that is my perception. I have tried to go to clubs and have fun like normal people, but I get so bored within 15 minutes! I have tried to listen to normal music and did not like most of it. Believe me, I have tried all of my life and tried to hide my uniqueness as much as possible, but it always show up one way or another when I tried to fit in and keep the peace. I have been criticized for not being normal, so you are not the first to criticized me. Even, my always being cheerful is strange to some people. I don't see why I need to have a bad attitude and a negative outlook in life when I am a very blessed person, regardless of the obstacles and hardships I had in life. I resolved my issues and forgiven those who have hurt me in the past. I am blessed not to be in the middle east right now.
> Can you say the same? In my judgement no. Definately not normal in certain aspects.
FP: Well, I have no other choice but to be me and accept myself as I am. I seem to be happier than most normal people because I don't need mind altering drugs or alcohol to have fun. I have a natural high. I found as I was learning to accept me for who I am, I realized there were always people who appreciated me for who I am, even my cheerfulness and eccentricity. I have my sad moments too. I even cry when I compared myself to a type Two. I am very sensative when it comes to those who are very close to my heart, though I am not that way when it comes to other people. I enjoy lighthearted friendships as much as I do with deep close meaningful friendship, except lighthearted friendships are more fun and painless.
FP: Remember, there is no reality, just perceptions, so what is your perception of being "normal" is? I want to learn what that means from your perspective if you wish to share. I have grown to realized what is normal for you, may not be normal for me. Melancholia is normal for Fours, but it is not normal for Sevens, do you see what I mean?
> And to answer the question what is normal cannot be answered by a majority of NF's, for they are identity seekers and creators. Although, in the end everyone fits in some type of box.
FP: I consider the MBTI theory to be incomplete and flawed. I have read about NFs, could people actually be that way? They could only see what their imagination could see, but not what's in front of them. Come on, that does not sound logical to me. MBTI makes NF's sound like hopeless impractical dreamers who are insightful and creative void of any logical reasoning that can't tell facts from opinion! That sounds pretty imbalanced to me. Facts are just principles to them. Come on, so do you guys actually believe that adult NFs don't know Facts to be facts? I am beginning to believe this is a form of brainwashing or maybe, it is another psychology theory that does not cover all people, no more than extrovert verses introvert covers all people. What about Ambiverts?
FP: I hope you won't feel offended if I don't want to play "flame wars" with you guys. I found it to be frustrating at times, but I rarely play games with other people. Well, my friends did talked me into playing Uno with them since they needed another player. It turned out to be fun, but I don't see myself playing cards and Uno all the time, like they do. I even tried bowling with them on some weekend, but it only seem like something I would do once in a while. It is not my world. I would rather go to the science museum or a musical play, but I know that is not normal.