Posted by Flower Pagan (68.35.113.192) on January 30, 2003 at 16:26:50:
In Reply to: Re: Reality and Normal: cultural? Perceptions? words? posted by P (65.56.47.108) on January 29, 2003 at 18:06:19:
> > If you have a problem with the statement "Remember, there is no reality, just perceptions", then I suggest you take it up with Dr. Phil at the link below. I choose not to debate the statement of a man who is more than willing to explain to you what he meant by those words and will do a much better job at it then I ever can.
> ***Dr. Phil is as useful and meaningful to me as opra fatfry which is not at all.
FP: You have a right to your opinions, and I don't understand the practical usefulness and meaningfulness of your calling people names. It is okay that you find no meaning or use for Dr. Philip A McGraw and Ms. Oprah Whimfrey, but there are millions of people who does, including book stores to cater to their vast audience.
> In a generalistic sense he is right, in a strict sense which I dont have time to define here he is wrong. I suppose in the context he may have stated it, that is has merit.
FP: I believe he has merit too. I think it is a waste of time to defend here that he is wrong, when it is so much more practical to come up with a better method and solution to bring more clarity to human condition that produces desired results, so I am in agreement with you about don't have time to defend he is wrong. I consider it a waste of time too.
FP: It does not matter to me if it is right or wrong in a general sense or a strict sense because they are just words to me. I am more concerned about practical results and not wasting people's time with psychobabble. I don't consider his perceptions is the only one that is right. If someone says there is reality and they produce desirable practical results, I would validate them just the same. I am people and result oriented.
FP: If someone wrote a poem that has words on it that touches people's lives and get them more in touch with their inner feelings, I would find that poem to have served its purpose. I am open minded about most things.
> > It isn't worth getting all worked up over as far as I am concerned. P, if you are looking for someone to have name calling "flame wars" style of debates with, I am not interested. When I was in high school, I could not understand why people like to crack jokes or play the dozen (whatever you call it), but I call it ridiculing each other and each othes families, especially the "your mama..." jokes and perhaps, instigating fights. I didn't understand that type of urban humor, even though at first, in the 9th grade I went alone with it because I wanted to make an effort to fit in and be their friend to keep the peace. I am an adult now, so I don't feel like I have to go alone with it if I don't want to, so I won't because it is unproductive chaos for me. Hey, if you enjoy calling me names and that makes you feel good, go right ahead, knock yourself out. I am not going to change who I am just for you to like me. I accept that you are just being yourself.
> ***This is a discussion about perceptions. Why drag out past issues? And avoid recognizing your role in deliberately provoking me in the past.
FP: I just wanted to make it clear where I stood in my communication with you to avoid any future misunderstandings. If you felt provoked in the past, then I acknowledge your perceptions are real to you. I just wanted to make it clear that I am not interested in "flame wars" games, nothing personal against you. I did make an effort to play and did not find it to be fun when I find myself getting tired of wasting my time in that.
FP: I do have an One wing unfortunately. I can relate to Fives in many ways but right now, I am searching for ways to behave more like a 7 and a 2 again, any suggestions? If you don't like my One wing that makes the two of us! I rather be a 7w6 or a 2w3 and go out there and have some fun! My neighbors think I need to go to clubs to drink, dance and talk about nothing because my wanting to meet people to have deep conversations with is not normal or fun in their book. Do like to drink, dance and talk about nothing with strangers? I don't expect you to care about me, but I just wanted to share what is on my mind at this minute.