Re: 8w5 INTJ ?.....HERE....LEMME ASK YOU SOMETHING

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> > HEY THANKS...I THINK....... > > I'll have to get the copies of the test....As I recall tho..in the MBTI...all of the four functions came out very dominant INTJ...especially I and T..like 9/1...N was 8/2?....going from memory here..J was the least, 7/3 I think....As far as Enneagram....Type 1 was the third highest score..but still not that close to 8 and 5....Types 9 and 2 were very low..hardly a rating for either of them...The rest were more or less bunched together. I remember the psychologist saying that from the results of the MBTI..He was very comfortable" typing" me as INTJ...(in response to one of my questions) The Enneagram results were to be discussed in depth at the next "session"...but I never went back...Thanks for the opinion.......Food for thought... > ********************* > Hi DEECEE, > Let's take another look now with the benefit of Perciever's comment: > We should push theory to see how far it can take us - after all the writers of Enneagram Personality Type and MBTI Types books do just that. > My earlier comments or guesses pointed towards your likely dominant Jungian Function-attitide and your likely dominant Enneagram Point. E8 seemed to be indicated, and the question I raised was how is it possible to mistype an E8 as an INTJ. TJ points to E1 (from ET), INTJ points to E5 (from IT). > > ********************************************************************** > Perciever wrote** > ***A 5 will have either a 4 or 6 wing and an 8 a 7 or 9 wing. To discover your type > ***and wing will require a lot of reading and introspection. > ******************************************************************** > > Perceiver's comment suggests this to me. > A hypothesis to test is if you can be described by the 8w7 (The Maverick by Riso). Riso gives names to the two wing combinations for each Enenagram Point. He has 9 names for the nine core types, plus 18 names for their wing combinations. > > If type 8w7 fits you this this is consistent with arrow work. MBTI reports Point Five (IT) and One (ET). Five is involved with the 5-7 forward motion arrow. Five is involved with the 5-8 arrow to hold the fort (and the reins on your horses of extraverted sensation (see, hear, taste, touch, and smell) at E7 (which is E8's wing). > This gives a perfectly good reason for Ni to be reported on the MBTI via INTJ, because Se at E7 pulls up the Ni inferior function fish (a misidentified E9). You can report N from Se vs Ni at E7 or from Si vs Ne at E8. > Riso's RHETI can measure BOTH attitudes (E-I) for each Jungian function -hence 8 Jungian processes. There is a separate score for both E7 and E8. MBTI cannot do this because it is not designed to measure four functions and BOTH attitudes at the same time for the same person. So MBTI reports 4/9 of the data that RHETI reports. > Does 7w8 make any sense to you? > > Walter

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