Re: Some issues, including Hurley and Dobson

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> > That is why your posts have received so much unfavourable comment. We don't mind you posting things that you > > disagree with. There would be no point in a discussion board if everybody agreed. I agree with some of the > > things that you say, eg about professions likely to be Sixes. On the other hand, there's not much point in you > > posting to a discussion board if you think that you're more clever than everybody else on the board and are > > prepared to dismiss their contributions as only based on the pop-enneagram. > > It also makes us more likely to dismiss your contributions as coming from someone who trying to show off, rather > > than trying to further discussion. Which would be a pity, as it would be useful for you to share your perspectives. > > Most of us haven't looked very deeply into Hurley and Dobson. If you think we should do so, argue the case rather > > than just making the assertion. > > Well said...but perhaps falling upon deaf ears. > > > If you reread that discussion, you'll find that all the unfavourable comments, as opposed to people disagreeing > > with you, come after you said 'Jacques is probably a 6.' It would still have been wrong to have said that if he were > > a Six. I seriously doubt he is a Six though. As a general rule, each person is always the best judge of their own > > type - the burden of proof is always on the person who disagrees. Furthermore there's a discussion I had with him a > > few weeks ago on this board about a subject that is usually extremely contentious. IMHO we treated the discussion as > > if it were a joint investigation, with mutual respect, despite disagreeing about it. I suspect that that was because > > we were both Fives. > yes. > > Sixes could still have had that mutual respect, but I don't think it would have shown itself in > > that way. (It would have been respect across an acknowledged border, rather than respect from a similar vantage point.) > With regards to that persuasion of atheism thing, I never got around to specifying reasons why I felt that it sounded incorrect - since you sort of brought it up - here goes: > According to my dictionary - persuasion 3a : OPINION BELIEF; esp: a system of religious beliefs b: a group adhering to a particular system of beliefs. > This definition does not imply distinction amongst motivations for a specific belief. Eg. A catholic who chooses to be catholic because his family is catholic is not of a different persuasion from a catholic who has been converted. The belief defines the persuasion - not the motivation for the belief. Choosing not to believe is only one belief…or is it only one lack of belief…can ones belief be lack of belief….can ones belief be choosing not to believe - mmm…I hope you are as confused as I am. Here’s an illustration: Some people believe that red flying saucers visit earth - some believe they’re blue - some believe they’re yellow - and some choose not to believe there are flying saucers visiting earth. So there’s the red flying saucer persuasion - the blue flying saucer persuasion - the yellow flying saucer persuasion - the question remains - is there a no flying saucer persuasion - or maybe there’s no such thing as a no flying saucer persuasion because the no flying saucer people are not believing in the idea of flying saucers at all - its not a belief - its a lack of belief > Oh well - perhaps a bit on the lame side - but hopefully you follow what I’m thinking. Sorry for the absence on enneagram content.

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