Posted by Andy on April 29, 1999 at 12:16:05:
In Reply to: Re: Meeting GOD via the enneagram posted by Hal on April 29, 1999 at 10:51:45:
> > > > After a discusiion with a professor of Religion I came to an idea about how the enneagram describes the 3 main ways that religion and phiosophy approach God.
> > > > Thinking Center people (5/6/7) attempt to find or discover the God of the Philosophers. The objective Creative force (7), the Laws of Nature (6), and/or the mathematics of creation and emanation (5).
> > > > Feeling Center people (2/3/4) attempt to meet God as in relationship. Through service in the world(2), in their works (3), or through the sacred in the inner wellsprings of one's self (4).
> > > > Instinctive center people (8/9/1) attempt to influence God. Through force of will (8), union (9), or perfect execution of prescribed duties (1).
> > ------------------------------------
> > Obviously, you're in the Thinking Center! :)
> > >
> > > I'm the kind of person that would never belive in God. I say...Belive in youselve
> > > , not God.
> > > Therefore I would never find, discover, meet, or influence something that
> > > does not exist in "my world". Please note that everyone tends to live
> > > in their own world, and God's not in mine. Urghh, I am even using a big G
> > > in God not to insult any of you...:)
> Never say never...
> I used to be a pure scientific type, an atheist. Someone once said I wasn't an atheist, but just "between Gods". It may have been 12 years between Gods, but he was right.
> The thing is that even atheistic, thinking types are still religious--everyone has beliefs that we can't prove, whether or not we want to. And while we may believe that we live in our own little world, we really don't. We're all part of the same reality, and deep down, I believe we are very much the same. If there is a God, he (I used a small 'h' for you Andy :-) exists in your world as well as mine. Belief doesn't define reality, IMHO.
> - Hal -
I like your way of seeing things in a general view. The point is that I don't
belive or disbelive so strong, that it's a form of religion.
I have actually discussed with an atheist and pointed out how religios she
is, with little understanding.
I would call atheist's just as religios as those who strongly belive in buddha or
whatever or the nnea...gr.....:)
The point is that I don't actually belive so mutch at all in any direction.
I just find it funny to play with idea's...:What if....And then what could that mean..And so on...
I could not care less about the truth, whatever works for people are the
same to me, as long as it don't affect me so mutch. Or I have to get it up the face.
Old people giving away everything their got to some religios group instead
of their relatives.
Hallellllluuu !!!!
But the satisfaction when reality fit's with an idea or whatever can be like
a real thrill.
I just does not buy into stuff, that seems directly stupid to me.
I don't need something like a religion, if it's the enneagram, mbti, God
or whatever, I can do fine whitout. I just find it funny to see that
things can be changed and are not beaten.
Even if this hole discussion, does not mean anything, it's still a chance
to communicate, exchange ideas and get a better understanding of things.
Anyway, I find it extremely funny to discuss with religios people whether
they are atheist's are into Jesus, God , ......