Posted by DEECEE on May 01, 1999 at 19:18:32:
In Reply to: Re: Meeting GOD via the enneagram posted by Dafyd on May 01, 1999 at 12:35:52:
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> > > Type 8 is interesting. The notion of an 8 believing in God is a paradox in itself: 8's hate submission, and most conceptions of God unfortunately involve submission to a large extent. I liked the way DEECEE summed it up in his reply to your post when he said that he believes in God when he wants to, not when God wants. That's typical of 8's; I agree with you when you say that they relate to God through force of will, but I think 8's capacity to submit in any case is stunted. When they 'believe' they're internalising the authority of God more than anything.
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> > DEECEE's answer was wonderfull! Even 8's that are devoted seem to have the attitude of, "God, help me please. But, if you won't, the hell with you I'll do it myself!".
> An Eight priest whom I know spends a lot of time emphasising 'God as love' rather than 'God as power' which he thinks is a
> dangerous idea. I'm not sure that a lot of Eights don't end up believing that.
> It's possible that as we mature, our religious (or other ethical ideas, if we don't have religious ones) tend to end up as
> corrections to our own preoccupations.
> Dafyd
There is a song Van Morrison wrote.....He says this about that........I like this song...
these words......
"And it's matter of survival
When you're born with your back against the wall
Won't somebody hand me a Bible
Won't you give me that number to call....
When that rough God goes riding
And that tough God goes gliding
They'll be nobody hiding
When that rough God goes riding on in
Riding on in.........
They'll be no more Heroes
They'll be reduced to zeros
When that rough God goes riding...
Riding on in......
Riding on in......."
OK SEE YA