Posted by Ryan on June 27, 1999 at 14:52:40:
In Reply to: Re: 5w4 or 9w1 What's the difference? posted by Ronnie on June 27, 1999 at 07:31:22:
Ronnie... Everything you write is true, of course. But you make the 9 seem like the village idiot. :) Both you and Dave seem to adopt Riso's descriptive scheme of making all the types seem pretty pathetic. I understand the point behind this (because "types" are fairly unhealthy by definition) but I like to make them seem positive when describing them so that it's easier for a newbie to the enneagram to decide their type and not be repelled by the description. Then, after making the decision, the newbie can confront all the problems that go along with that type.
Speaking of deciding type, why haven't you figured out yours yet? If you've taken the tests and all that, I don't know what else I can do to help you. I could read back on some of your posts and tell you what it seems like you are to me, but of course this is a fairly inaccurate way for others to determine your type.
You could always send a picture of yourself to Johnny Five. :)
Ryan
> Fives are mentally active, most high strung in that way at the lower levels (according to Riso). Their basic motivation is to be independent, self-reliant and avoid intrusion by others. Can be mentally very arrogant.
> Nines are more happy-go-lucky people, often denying anything negative about their habits, outwardly compliant--first say yes when you suggest something but then do whatever they want when you're not around. Passive-aggressive.
> A five is very cerebral and has continuous thinking going on, making connections between things, finding out things that aren't right, accumulating data and all that to know what everything is about. A lower levels' nine solution is "so what?" If a five has to deliver an important report before going on to a vacation, s/he probably makes sure the work can be done in privacy and will try to do it as well as possible. At the lower levels the report might not make even much sense or concentrate on too delicate details, but it would get done. An unhealthier nine would just organize his/hers collection of magazines and just forget about doing that report because of that "So what?" So what if I don't do it? It doesn't matter.
> A nine numbs things out and falls into routine and daydreaming when stressed up, a five gets more high-strung, more "aware" of things unknown and the thought processes speed up.
> Ronnie (who yet doesn't know even his own type :)