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Should we mention Tiger Woods too? :-)

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Posted by Ryan on October 02, 1999 at 01:17:46:

In Reply to: Jordan's image and 'selling out' posted by Cecil on October 01, 1999 at 18:01:53:

This is a brilliant insight, Cecil. You have an incredible mind and writing talent hiding behind your online theatrical skills.

However, I still think that Jordan is a three. He has the calmness, coolness and the sensitivity to personal criticism that is all a part of the three enneatype. He's always been like this, even when he was in college before he became a superstar constantly portrayed by the 3ish media.

Tiger Woods is a 3 too, by they way. Probably a level less healthy than Jordan, though. When Jordan missed a critical shot, it hurt him badly, but he kept it under relatively good control. When Tiger doesn't play well at golf, he is emotionally devastated.

Ryan

> Then again, he is portrayed by a three-dominated U.S. media whose tendencies are naturally going to 'hype him up' in a three way.

> So, basically, we are screening him through three 'lens'.

> And when functioning in a three-driven socio-environment, we are bound to be 'pulled' towards 'operating' in a three-ish way, one way or another.

> Although this leaves us with the question of how much an influence does the immediate environment has over influencing our behaviors?

> You can have all the originality that you want, but sooner or later you will be expected to 'sell out' to how others want you to 'behave' or protray yourself, lest you get something close to what it is you want after all.

> We are not alone in the world.

> And neither is Jordan.

> If Jordan did not 'sell out' and act like a three at least to the degree that is expeted of him, how else could he have satisfied the needs of the threes who have significant control over who gets the chance to do what?

> Maybe this was the 'hard lesson' he learned when he failed to make his h.s. team. Maybe it was not due to his 'lack of skill' of playing basketball aafter all. Maybe it had to do more with his 'lack of will to sell out' to his coach and others who had more control than he did when it comes to deciding who will get the chance to play or not.

> Maybe it was then when he learned the importance of 'selling out' to get a chance at what you want.

> Hard lesson for us all, really.

> Cecil

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Re: Should we mention Tiger Woods too? :-) Adrienne - Newbie 12:40:07 10/04/99 (1)
- Tiger Woods, and a discussion of the E3 (Input from other 3s [Gigi] welcome :-) Ryan 21:32:20 10/04/99 (0)
Re: Should we mention Tiger Woods too? :-) Perciever 09:10:43 10/04/99 (1)
- Re: Should we mention Tiger Woods too? :-) Ryan 21:03:14 10/04/99 (0)
Yes, & thank you; I agree! I really am brilliant! Cecil 03:35:21 10/02/99 (8)
- Re: Yes, & thank you; I agree! I really am brilliant! Ryan 02:39:37 10/03/99 (0)
- Cecil in sports rather than movies? Gigi 05:27:43 10/02/99 (5)
  - Re: Cecil in sports rather than movies? Cecil 15:08:18 10/03/99 (0)
  - Re: Cecil in sports rather than movies? Ryan 02:49:20 10/03/99 (3)
    - OK, football! Gigi 12:14:27 10/03/99 (2)
      - Re: OK, football! Ryan 18:39:53 10/03/99 (1)
        
        Re: OK, football! Gigi 12:06:35 10/04/99 (0)
- Re: NO I meant Ryan, not Brian! Cecil 03:37:52 10/02/99 (0)

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> This is a brilliant insight, Cecil. You have an incredible mind and writing talent hiding behind your online theatrical skills. > However, I still think that Jordan is a three. He has the calmness, coolness and the sensitivity to personal criticism that is all a part of the three enneatype. He's always been like this, even when he was in college before he became a superstar constantly portrayed by the 3ish media. > Tiger Woods is a 3 too, by they way. Probably a level less healthy than Jordan, though. When Jordan missed a critical shot, it hurt him badly, but he kept it under relatively good control. When Tiger doesn't play well at golf, he is emotionally devastated. > Ryan > > > Then again, he is portrayed by a three-dominated U.S. media whose tendencies are naturally going to 'hype him up' in a three way. > > So, basically, we are screening him through three 'lens'. > > And when functioning in a three-driven socio-environment, we are bound to be 'pulled' towards 'operating' in a three-ish way, one way or another. > > Although this leaves us with the question of how much an influence does the immediate environment has over influencing our behaviors? > > You can have all the originality that you want, but sooner or later you will be expected to 'sell out' to how others want you to 'behave' or protray yourself, lest you get something close to what it is you want after all. > > We are not alone in the world. > > And neither is Jordan. > > If Jordan did not 'sell out' and act like a three at least to the degree that is expeted of him, how else could he have satisfied the needs of the threes who have significant control over who gets the chance to do what? > > Maybe this was the 'hard lesson' he learned when he failed to make his h.s. team. Maybe it was not due to his 'lack of skill' of playing basketball aafter all. Maybe it had to do more with his 'lack of will to sell out' to his coach and others who had more control than he did when it comes to deciding who will get the chance to play or not. > > Maybe it was then when he learned the importance of 'selling out' to get a chance at what you want. > > Hard lesson for us all, really. > > Cecil

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